coltrain Posted July 10, 2009 Share #1 Posted July 10, 2009 I've never ridden anybody else's 1st gen.. and I'm kinda new to the XVZ1200 Venture Royale's. I picked up this brown 85 April of this year and I have put about 4k miles on it.. I have done a ton of maintenance on it already, and changed all the fluids, cleaned carbs and synced etc etc. I have shrugged off the whine as just the nature of the bike but I am curious if I might possibly have a bearing going bad somewhere? Does yours have a whine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted July 10, 2009 Share #2 Posted July 10, 2009 I've never ridden anybody else's 1st gen.. and I'm kinda new to the XVZ1200 Venture Royale's. I picked up this brown 85 April of this year and I have put about 4k miles on it.. I have done a ton of maintenance on it already, and changed all the fluids, cleaned carbs and synced etc etc. I have shrugged off the whine as just the nature of the bike but I am curious if I might possibly have a bearing going bad somewhere? Does yours have a whine? Not my 85. Exhaust is so noisy I couldn't hear it if it did whine plus my hearing is about gone and she don't ride!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkrieg Posted July 10, 2009 Share #3 Posted July 10, 2009 My 87 doesnt have a whine that I can tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltrain Posted July 10, 2009 Author Share #4 Posted July 10, 2009 Thanks for input.. I reckon I need to look into what is making the whine noise. I have a feeling it is in the final drive or a bearing in the clutch. I will do some tests later with the clutch engaged and raise the rpms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlS Posted July 10, 2009 Share #5 Posted July 10, 2009 My 83 whines but the bike is new to me also so I don't know if half the sounds I hear are normal or not. Did all the maintenance and updates and repairs I could find, so I guess mine is just a whiner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiCarl Posted July 10, 2009 Share #6 Posted July 10, 2009 There has been all this talk of whines, chirps etc. The primary drive gear on a 1st gen is also noisy. I would not categorize it as a whine, more of a whistle - sounds a bit like a vacuum leak. The whistle is engine speed dependent (mine is most pronounced at about 3Krpm), individual bikes may vary somewhat. This is entirely normal and I can generally hear it in most models of Yamaha street bikes a block away. If you have a sound that changes from accel to decel, or is road speed dependent rather than engine RPM dependent then you should think about bearings and gears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilvrT Posted July 10, 2009 Share #7 Posted July 10, 2009 My 85 would whine when rpm's were around 3000 +/- ... I hated it ... I had that scoot for 6 years ... loved the bike but hated the whine. Only thing i could do was try and stay away from that rpm. Now I got an '06 ... guess what? ... same thing! Taking it in for the clutch basket change tomorrow so we'll see if that helps any. Also had an '87 ... no whine at all ... wished my '06 was as quiet of an engine as that '87. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltrain Posted July 10, 2009 Author Share #8 Posted July 10, 2009 There has been all this talk of whines, chirps etc. The primary drive gear on a 1st gen is also noisy. I would not categorize it as a whine, more of a whistle - sounds a bit like a vacuum leak. The whistle is engine speed dependent (mine is most pronounced at about 3Krpm), individual bikes may vary somewhat. This is entirely normal and I can generally hear it in most models of Yamaha street bikes a block away. If you have a sound that changes from accel to decel, or is road speed dependent rather than engine RPM dependent then you should think about bearings and gears. Yes! On my 85 the whine is most audible at 3k RPM. It doesn't matter whether the clutch is engaged or not. Thats for the info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcarl Posted July 10, 2009 Share #9 Posted July 10, 2009 Yep it's common, especially around 28 to 32,000 rpm. Varies in different bikes, either go slower or faster, depends on the road and the passenger. I changed my clutch basket to one from another scoot and nothing changed. Also, if you wear a headset the mic can pick up the noise and make it seem quite unreasonable, so then point the mic up a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH Truck Guy Posted July 10, 2009 Share #10 Posted July 10, 2009 Mine also whines at 3,000 rpm's... It's done this since I got it... I get a little rear end whine when I get off the gas..Normal stuff.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottXD45 Posted July 10, 2009 Share #11 Posted July 10, 2009 My '83 whines for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friesman Posted July 10, 2009 Share #12 Posted July 10, 2009 My Brown 85 whines loudly from 2800 to about 3200 rpm and seems to be normal for these bikes. My engine and trans was out of the bike over the winter and had a complete looking over and check. It has the same whine now that it had last summer so I dont think I would worry about yours. I put about 4500 kms on mine last week through mountains, flatlands, cool temp and hot temps and it whined all the way, but I love that bike! Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6m459 Posted July 11, 2009 Share #13 Posted July 11, 2009 My blue '84 has a sound that might be described as a whine. Seems common to the Yamaha shafties. Some one over on the XJ site described it as sounding line the noise from the Jetson's cartoon space cars. Brian H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdoyle9760 Posted July 11, 2009 Share #14 Posted July 11, 2009 I have 2 1986s and a 1987. One of the 86s has a pretty good whine. Only has 14,000 miles. Sounds to me like it was never broken in. The loudest sound on the other two bikes (one with 60,000+ miles) is the tires on the road. No noises at all. Hope this helps. Tim:fiddle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrood Posted July 11, 2009 Share #15 Posted July 11, 2009 Mine often produces whining and various other noises but does it in various gears and various speeds when I ride double... but I think I've narrowed it down to the intercom. Don't know about the rest of you... Alone, my 86 doesn't exhibit anything "odd" in the 3k range... except a real desire to see 4k... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skydoc_17 Posted July 12, 2009 Share #16 Posted July 12, 2009 When the whinning starts on my 87'VR............ I make Jean get off and walk!!! But Really, my 87'VR whines, and when I changed the rear diff. to the FJR1300, it whines at a different speed but same RPM, 2600 to 3000 RPMS. Earl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeS Posted July 12, 2009 Share #17 Posted July 12, 2009 Around town, 25 to 45 mph, decelerating, the tranmission on my 89 whines. However, at highway speed, don't notice anything. Its been like that since new, no worse, no better. I figure its the transmission gears. Just the nature of the beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonm. Posted July 12, 2009 Share #18 Posted July 12, 2009 The "whine" on mine I believe is actually a harmonic of the valve train. Because it seems to be no matter what gear I choose it's @2800-3200 . I have had it for 20 years like this. WHen I decellerate a different whine comes from the rear end...loading the opposite sides of the ring/pinion gears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
04Midnight Posted July 12, 2009 Share #19 Posted July 12, 2009 I would not categorize it as a whine, more of a whistle - sounds a bit like a vacuum leak. My '81 Vision had that sound. My '82 Seca 650 had that sound. So did my '82 Seca Turbo. I always thought it was the YICS or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor Posted July 12, 2009 Share #20 Posted July 12, 2009 My '83 whines at around 3000rpm. I think it's kinda cool. Sounds like a turbo winding up. But my 91 doesn't. Gear cut?? Who know's?? Beside I don't even notice it after riding a while. Then again I don't hear my obnoxious Grandfather Clock chime any longer either... It's a left brain thing..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasFlyer Posted July 14, 2009 Share #21 Posted July 14, 2009 Oh yes, my '83 whines real good. I been all over it, my maintenance manuals, and the internet, and have come to the personal conclusion that the bike likes it that way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddlebum Posted July 14, 2009 Share #22 Posted July 14, 2009 Around town, 25 to 45 mph, decelerating, the tranmission on my 89 whines. However, at highway speed, don't notice anything. Its been like that since new, no worse, no better. I figure its the transmission gears. Just the nature of the beast. My 89 is pretty much the same and I even replaced all my bearings in the wheels and diff. Not for that reason I just did it because the bike was all apaart at the time and it just seemed like a good idea at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyHorse Posted July 14, 2009 Share #23 Posted July 14, 2009 Thanks for input.. I reckon I need to look into what is making the whine noise. I have a feeling it is in the final drive or a bearing in the clutch. I will do some tests later with the clutch engaged and raise the rpms. Mine whines like crazy when I pull the clutch in it goes away. I'm have acquired the clutch pressure plate bearing. Gonna see if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryZ Posted July 14, 2009 Share #24 Posted July 14, 2009 The "whine" on mine I believe is actually a harmonic of the valve train. Because it seems to be no matter what gear I choose it's @2800-3200 . I have had it for 20 years like this. WHen I decellerate a different whine comes from the rear end...loading the opposite sides of the ring/pinion gears. My '85 has the same whine. It is only noticed when riding without a helmet . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappa Bear Posted July 14, 2009 Share #25 Posted July 14, 2009 My 89 whines also, pull in the clutch while rolling down the road and it stops. I believe it is the cut of the gears in the trans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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