Guest w r crouch Posted July 16, 2007 Share #1 Posted July 16, 2007 need to know more about lowering kit for my '04 RSV. Short legs are making things difficult with the little woman sitting behind me. She sits so high, its difficult to keep bike upright when we come to a stop. Would lowering the rear help? Where do I buy the Baron's kit, how much, how dificult to install etc.? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreezyRider Posted July 16, 2007 Share #2 Posted July 16, 2007 If you can turn a wrench, you can install it. Remove the right saddlebag to expose the rear caliper. Also remove the left bag, as you will need to remove the axle. Just follow the instructions in the kit. Really not a bad job at all. Where to buy it? 1. Direct from Barons 2. I have a complete kit for sale, including the instructions. It was on a bike when I bought it, I didn't like it lowered so I removed the kit and returned it to stock. It's yours for $95 shipped anywhere in the continental U.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSpyder Posted July 16, 2007 Share #3 Posted July 16, 2007 I dabbled with different heights for the bike. The bike is much easier to control at low speeds with the leveling links lifting the back a bit. Once stopped I was having more trouble with the reach to the ground. I removed the links and lowered the front an inch and the bike is again easier to handle at low speeds and easier to reach the ground. I personally suggest you try lowering the front up to an inch and see what you think. I then tried lowering the back almost and inch. I liked the reach even better but found the low speed responsiveness going away. With a passenger I was getting a bit of hunting back and forth and it just didn’t seem to want to hold a line. Now I’m back to stock in the back and down an inch in the front. This is the best for what I was trying for and will be staying here. Of course peoples tastes vary. Just remember that both ends can be adjusted, try it all and I’m sure you can make the bike what you like. Also other owners have mentioned having the seat modded to make it lower or narrower to help. Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maritimer Posted July 17, 2007 Share #4 Posted July 17, 2007 Well, I had my seat re-upholstered to lower it and it is pretty good that way but I also would like to lower the bike. Most ppl say that the leveling kit is best for low speed stability but I can't afford to raise the beast by even a half inch. So maybe the best way for me would be to lower the front end. Achieve better stability and lower seat height. AZSpyder, how did you go about lowering the front end? Any pics? Or a "How to"? Tx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSpyder Posted July 17, 2007 Share #5 Posted July 17, 2007 Check out this thread for a discussion. In that there is a link to the "how to" Jerry http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7530 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWesson Posted July 17, 2007 Share #6 Posted July 17, 2007 I dabbled with different heights for the bike. The bike is much easier to control at low speeds with the leveling links lifting the back a bit. Once stopped I was having more trouble with the reach to the ground. I removed the links and lowered the front an inch and the bike is again easier to handle at low speeds and easier to reach the ground.Jerry Hi Jerry, Did you notice a difference between the two? Leveling links vs lowering the front forks. Did one handle better than the other? Leonard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSpyder Posted July 18, 2007 Share #7 Posted July 18, 2007 Leonard I’m not positive but I think the leveling links may have been better for the low speed handling. It is very close. The leveling links do allow more cornering clearance but cause even more trouble if the bike is a bit too tall. In my opinion go with the leveling links if you have the reach, drop the front if you don’t (or you are cheap, the front is free). If you don’t do either watch the rear shock pressure. My bike was worse on the handling if the back drops with a load, like two up. It got very slow responding at low speed. Did a lot of S turning starting off. Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRadi8 Posted July 18, 2007 Share #8 Posted July 18, 2007 If you can turn a wrench, you can install it. Remove the right saddlebag to expose the rear caliper. Also remove the left bag, as you will need to remove the axle. Just follow the instructions in the kit. Really not a bad job at all. Where to buy it? 1. Direct from Barons 2. I have a complete kit for sale, including the instructions. It was on a bike when I bought it, I didn't like it lowered so I removed the kit and returned it to stock. It's yours for $95 shipped anywhere in the continental U.S. Sent you mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosebud Posted July 18, 2007 Share #9 Posted July 18, 2007 Hi Jerry, Did you notice a difference between the two? Leveling links vs lowering the front forks. Did one handle better than the other? Leonard Hi Leonard, NEWTrk (Phil) started out with the lowering kit on the back last year, worked fine, he liked the control of the bike, but the pipes dragged more often. Over the winter he removed the lowering kit and put the rear back to stock, he then lowered the front an inch and loves the control now. It gives him exactly what he wanted at no cost - just a little time. BTW - he also hated the slow speed manuvering with the stock tires, he has replaced them with Avons and is a real happy camper. rb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest w r crouch Posted July 18, 2007 Share #10 Posted July 18, 2007 thanks to all for info. sounds like lowering the front end is right for me. will let u know how it comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreezyRider Posted July 19, 2007 Share #11 Posted July 19, 2007 Sent you mail. I replied. Did you get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trandeod Posted July 24, 2007 Share #12 Posted July 24, 2007 How do we go about lowering the front an inch. I'm new to my 06 RSV and could stand some better handling. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveP Posted July 24, 2007 Share #13 Posted July 24, 2007 .... It was on a bike when I bought it, I didn't like it lowered so I removed the kit and returned it to stock. It's yours for $95 shipped anywhere in the continental U.S. If all goes well, I'll be picking up "my" '06 at the end of the week. It is already lowered. If it doesn't suit me (6' tall, mostly legs) can you provide info on returning it to stock? Without the lowering kit instructions I don't know what to undo. Any help you can provide would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Ice Posted July 24, 2007 Share #14 Posted July 24, 2007 If all goes well, I'll be picking up "my" '06 at the end of the week. It is already lowered. If it doesn't suit me (6' tall, mostly legs) can you provide info on returning it to stock? Without the lowering kit instructions I don't know what to undo. Any help you can provide would be appreciated. I assume you mean it has been lowered with a Barons kit. If you are buying it from the original owner that lowered it in the first place, make sure you get the original parts from him/her. These should consist of 2 links shaped something like dog bones and the brake caliper relocation piece. The brake relocation part is to protect against slamming the fender into the stock rear brake caliper when lowered. You can tell if the rear brakes have been relocated if you see the rear calipers positioned below the swing arm. When stock the calipers are above the swing arm. Changing the brake relocation piece requires that you remove the rear wheel. The Barons brake relocation parts consist of an arm and a spacer but the original part is a single piece. It is pretty self evident how the stock piece should go back if you take the right saddle bag off and look at the rear brakes. There is a piece in the Tech section on putting links on with the torque numbers. If for some reason you don't have the stock rear brake location arm, you can live with the Baron's rear brake relocation piece and still put the bike back to stock height with the links. If you don't have either, you can get links made to the stock size or get some from someone on the site that has gone with the raised links and don't want the stock ones any more. Changing the links is very easy and as said, the direction to change links are in the Tech section for 2nd gens. Sorry if this is long winded. I don't have the original instructions but it isn't a difficult change. You might take a look at the Barons site cause they show a picture of the kit parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveP Posted July 24, 2007 Share #15 Posted July 24, 2007 Well, I just sealed the deal this morning. I'll be picking it up my "new to me" '06 RSV next week. The guy I'm buying it from is the 2nd owner (depsite that, she only has 2,800 miles on her). He doesn't think he has the bones but is going to give me the "box of stuff" that he got from the 1st owner. If everything is in there then I'm all set. If not, it looks like I'll be posting here to see if anyone will sell me their stock bones. Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoutman Posted July 24, 2007 Share #16 Posted July 24, 2007 I've got stock bones if you need em. I know I'll never use them again. I like my leveling links way to much. You may want to consider leveling links from Diamond R instead of going to stock. They really improve the slow speed handling of the bike, and improve your drag clearance as well. Anyway, shoot me a PM if you need the stock dog bones. Here is the writeup on removing the stock dog bones and replacing them with leveling links. http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=492 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmet012001 Posted June 30, 2014 Share #17 Posted June 30, 2014 Going with the barrons lowering kit. I would love to see pics of them lowered. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YamahaLarry Posted July 14, 2014 Share #18 Posted July 14, 2014 need to know more about lowering kit for my '04 RSV. Short legs are making things difficult with the little woman sitting behind me. She sits so high, its difficult to keep bike upright when we come to a stop. Would lowering the rear help? Where do I buy the Baron's kit, how much, how dificult to install etc.? Thanks The PO lowered by '99 RSV and would love to undo what he did. Would be willing to swap parts with anyone such as yourself, but I ride every day and would have to be a quick swap. Also willing to just purchase original stock parts from anyone that has lowered their RSV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eusa1 Posted July 14, 2014 Share #19 Posted July 14, 2014 this thread is 7 years old fyi. and I think I have a stock setup laying around that I could swap with you if you wish? mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YamahaLarry Posted July 14, 2014 Share #20 Posted July 14, 2014 this thread is 7 years old fyi. and I think I have a stock setup laying around that I could swap with you if you wish? mike Wow. What an oversight. But yes, I am very interested. Kinda busy this week. Have a big ride coming up this weekend for a child with terminal cancer and working on getting all that put together. Can I hook back up with you next week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eusa1 Posted July 14, 2014 Share #21 Posted July 14, 2014 pm'd ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speakerfritz Posted July 14, 2014 Share #22 Posted July 14, 2014 Ill give the barons kit with the relocation kit a thumbs up. install was medium and having a second person to help was useful. I went back and addedd an oring to the pivot arm to keep it aligned during install. with out the oring, my brakes were rubbing from an out of alignment brake arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmet012001 Posted July 14, 2014 Share #23 Posted July 14, 2014 I just installed tge barons lowering kit late last night. Poring rain today so I havent gotten to ride it yet. Hopefully tonight! Medium difficulty for instal is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmet012001 Posted July 14, 2014 Share #24 Posted July 14, 2014 Did you instal the oring during the brake relocation or the dogbones swap? I had no rubbing issues at all. Maybe I just got lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmet012001 Posted August 3, 2014 Share #25 Posted August 3, 2014 Did you instal the oring during the brake relocation or the dogbones swap? I had no rubbing issues at all. Maybe I just got lucky. Yeah. The lowering kit has been on for a good 2 weeks with no issues.. I'm going to jack it up later and see if I can find something going on in there.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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