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    OK. I have absolutely no experience with a stator going bad on my Venture Royale and I have no idea what to look for if a problem is developing. I've heard that on a Gold Wing, when the stator goes out, everything goes out. You're basically dead in the water. I have no idea if that is typical with this bike or not. Here's what I've experienced today. I had to run to the parts house to get some new brake pads for the wife's Geo. Everything went as clockwork. I fred up the bike, drove to the Zone, got the parts, and driv back. I went back out to fire the bike up about four hours later. The bike turn once, then started clicking. I had to use the battery charger to get it fired up. I got it running again and driv it to the cars wash so's I could clean it up a bit. Got done, tried to fire it up, it turned twice and quit. Had to call the wife out to jump start me (I ain't pushin' it). I got it fired back up and took it for an investigative ride. Once the RPM's get over 2 G's, it shows to be charging just below the 3/4 mark on the voltmeter (well above the 12 mark). If I let it idle, the voltmeter drops to just above the yellow mark (well below the 12 mark). When the engine is running 2 G's and above, the voltmeter stays just below the 3/4 mark and does not fluctuate. So what could have caused my problem? Is the stator trying to go bad? The previous owner also had replaced the original battery with one from a Gold Wing. As a result, I have no place to stick the special battery sensor tube. Could this be where my problem lies? Do I just need to get out and ride the bike some more to keep the battery charged up?

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    Sounds like your battery is finished, hard to tell how old a battery is sometimes and if it's used even harder to figure out.
    Simple test would be to charge it overnight and then let it sit for 3 to 4 hours, or just turn your headlights on for about 5 minutes. Now check the voltage, and if it has dropped below 12 replace the battery. If it was your stator or regulator then you wouldn't get any charge at any time.
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    I agree. Sounds like the battery, I would at least clean the terminals just to make sure that's not the problem. Batteries don't last very long on the bikes to start with so putting in a used battery is just asking for trouble.

    Sounds like the stater is working as it is suppose to.

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    Thanks guys. Now for my next stupid question.
    Where's the best place to buy a new battery?
    I've looked on-line at Batteries plus and while they don't show to have any on-line, the website says that it should be in stock in the store. The only one they show for my bike though is for an '85, not an '84. Is there enough difference between the two years to cause a problem?

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    I bought a PC680 Odyssey AGM Battery off ebay. I've never been happier with the starting power I have now. Never a problem even after sitting for over a month.

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    I agree that it sounds like a battery....One of the best ways to check the battery is with a hydrometer...

    About where to buy a battery.....years ago I needed a battery and was new to town..I looked in the yellow pages under battery (duh) and found a hole in the wall battery business that had all sorts of batteries..New, used etc.I bought a new battery for my Venture and had it for 5-6 years..A hydrometer check showed it was getting weak in a couple cells so I bought another and that one has been in for several years now...My point is the batteries I've bought weren't brand names but they were good batteries and a lot cheaper....I've bought all my vehicle batteries from this guy and have not gotten a bad one yet.....

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    I always used to get my batteries at Sam's as they are by far the cheapest at something like 29.00. They would last about three years. This last time I got a 680 jell battery off of e-bay for a little over a 100.00 and it's the best battery I've ever had in a motorcycle. In Feb. it was up to around 40 deg so I went out and cranked the bike over and it started. This was the first time it had been started after almost 4 months of winter. It cranked over better after sitting for 4 months in the winter than other batteries have cranked it over in the summer after sitting a day. I'll never go back to a standard battery at any price.

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    Search the Bike on the left Side for a Wire Connector with white or yellow Wires. It should be about where your Knee is. Take your digital Multimeter, set it on AC and 20 Volts Range and measure the Voltages between these Wires. With a fully charged Battery all three Readings should be around 15 Volts with the Bike on Idle. On higher Rpm, the Voltages should rise a Bit, but not over 17.5 Volts each. The Voltages Readings are not that important, more important is that they should be equal.

    If this checks out fine, mostly your Battery is shot. If the P/O did replace the Battery more recently, the Regulator/Rectifier could be the Culprit.

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    Thanks guys. I did the traditional tests on the battery between the charger and the hydrometer and it was obvious the battery was bad. I went down to Batteries Plus this morning and grabbed a PC680. I would have done the Ebay thing, but really kind of needed the battery right now. Anyhow, the bike fired right up like a champ, it shows to be charging better at an idle, and even the horn sounds better when I honk it at the cranky old lady down the street.

    Thanks all for your wonderful help!

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    Now that old lady is going to be complaining about those Bikers!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yammer Dan View Post
    Now that old lady is going to be complaining about those Bikers!!!
    Naw, just me.
    She knows who I am and she runs around with my wife.

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    Good on you, but i'd check and clean the Stator Connector anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeeze View Post
    Good on you, but i'd check and clean the Stator Connector anyway.
    That is the plan.
    Thanks!

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    You should do two more checks ... And if either one fails replace the stator ...

    1. Measure the output voltage at the battery while running at 2000rpm. It should read 14.3 volts or greater. If not then your rectifier may be bad. Search for rectifier test on this site and test it. If rectifier is bad replace it.
    2. With bike not running, key off, and the 3 white wire plug disconnected, check the resistance to ground through the stator side of the plug to ground. All 3 wires should read open (OL). If any line reads any ohm value, even a .5 ohm or less, replace the stator.
    Also, there should be about .5 ohm between all of the 3 combinations of the 3 wires.

    My electrical system passed every test but the 14.3 volt test (only 13.5 on my bike) and the stator wires to ground open test ... All 3 were shorted to ground. Changed the stator and all tests are good now!

    Good luck!

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    Old thread I know but similar circumstances. I have not had the chance to do the checks yet till after work. 87 VR all in all great shape just needed some TLC. When I got the bike it fired up fine after playing with it for a few days the battery was low but I chalked that up to me playing with it too much. Charged it and it was fine, a few days later it wouldnít start again. And again I was playing with and modifying electronic stuff. Charged it back up and havenít had a problem in a couple weeks. Rode to work yesterday with no issues, today the kid and I went for a ride and sitting on the overpass waiting to make a left turn onto the highway on-ramp the rpms dipped a little and it stalled. Battery was too low to fire it back up. So there we stood in the middle of a five lane interchange, luckily I was able to get to the battery with my pocket monkey and happened to have a jump pack with me because of the weeks earlier issues. Got it fired up and made it home, pulled in the stable shut it down and wouldnít start. What I was paying attention to on the way home aside from avoiding a stall was the volt indicator, it at a stop just barely was out of the yellow but hit the middle with ease when riding or if I gave it a little throttle. Iíve never had a stator problem, but if itís working is it just the battery isnít holding a charge from it? Battery seems to hold fine when charged from the battery charger. Or is it possible the stator isnít providing enough charge?

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