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    Default I don't know how to weld

    But I guess I'm gonna have to learn.... :-)

    Picked up this Lincoln 140C Mig in an auction yesterday. It's reported to have a wire feed problem, but I do know how to wrench...

    They also had a Millermatic 211 but being a frugal sort I saved about $600 going this route. For the few odd jobs I need it for, it didn't make sense
    to And although it will do gas/wire I'll probably stick to flux-core....



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    Default Re: I don't know how to weld

    My neighbor has a few welders. If I needed something welded, he would point me in the direction and say do it yourself.
    Now, I had gas welded before and TIG is sort of like that, so I wasn't terrible at that. But, my MIG and stick welding was almost the worst I've seen.

    So, I decided rather than being humiliated, I would buy my own welder and learn how.
    Some utube video's and a bunch of practice and my welding is at least better than a lot that I've seen.
    I built a utility trailer a couple years ago that was quite a bit of welding, I can see the difference between where I started and how much better my welds looked towards the end.

    BTW, get the gas bottle, you'll be happy you did.

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    Default Re: I don't know how to weld

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadflyer View Post
    My neighbor has a few welders. If I needed something welded, he would point me in the direction and say do it yourself.
    Now, I had gas welded before and TIG is sort of like that, so I wasn't terrible at that. But, my MIG and stick welding was almost the worst I've seen.

    So, I decided rather than being humiliated, I would buy my own welder and learn how.
    Some utube video's and a bunch of practice and my welding is at least better than a lot that I've seen.
    I built a utility trailer a couple years ago that was quite a bit of welding, I can see the difference between where I started and how much better my welds looked towards the end.

    BTW, get the gas bottle, you'll be happy you did.

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    Default Re: I don't know how to weld

    Condor,

    You will still probably need to at least use CO2 even with the flux-core wire.
    Use a helmet with an auto darkening shield to make your life easier. Worth every penny.
    Get some wax type nozzle shield, anti-spatter spray, extra nozzles and tips.
    If you don't have them a pair of MIG nozzle pliers is nice.
    Of course gloves, hat and welding jacket are required also.

    Best advice is to not look at the arc. Learn to watch the shadows it throws to know what is happening.
    Arc should sound a lot like crackling bacon in an open pan.

    Oh and just so you know, there are three types of welds.
    1. Ones that hold.
    2. Ones that look good.
    3. Ones that hold and look good. (This is the most difficult.)

    Have fun learning.

    Argo

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    Default Re: I don't know how to weld

    Quote Originally Posted by Argo View Post
    Condor,

    You will still probably need to at least use CO2 even with the flux-core wire.
    Use a helmet with an auto darkening shield to make your life easier. Worth every penny.
    Get some wax type nozzle shield, anti-spatter spray, extra nozzles and tips.
    If you don't have them a pair of MIG nozzle pliers is nice.
    Of course gloves, hat and welding jacket are required also.

    Best advice is to not look at the arc. Learn to watch the shadows it throws to know what is happening.
    Arc should sound a lot like crackling bacon in an open pan.

    Oh and just so you know, there are three types of welds.
    1. Ones that hold.
    2. Ones that look good.
    3. Ones that hold and look good. (This is the most difficult.)

    Have fun learning.

    Argo
    A lot of that stuff is available from Harbor Freight. That'll probably be my first shopping trip... After I take a look at the wire feed problem... I will go GW in the future.. Probably a 75/25 mix... That seems to be the most popular... But for now and some of the outside odd jobs I have the FC should do... Don't really care if they're ugly welds... :-)

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    Default Re: I don't know how to weld

    DEFINITLEY go with the gas shielding over flux core. Mig welding is mostly about getting it set up right for what you're doing. Once you get in the zone, you can make some beautiful welds that'll penetrate. Like someone said, when you're in the zone you'll hear a consistent sizzling. I just use CO2 and it suits me just fine. Maybe not as good as ultramix or the like, but as I get the CO2 for free, that's what I use and have done quite well with it.
    Practice makes perfect, and once you get the knack, you'll be amazed when you see all that you can do and will wonder how you ever got by without it.
    I've a Lincoln Weldpak 120v mig, A Lincoln 225 AC/DC stick welder and an old oxy acetelyne setup from my days in the steel mill.
    99% of what I weld is with the Lincoln Weldpak mig. I only resort to stick welding when I've something really heavy to weld. (1/4" and over).
    Have fun with it.

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    Default Re: I don't know how to weld

    I have had a Forney 220 amp buzz box welder for forty years. Does what I need. Never used wire feed.

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    Default Re: I don't know how to weld

    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvester View Post
    I have had a Forney 220 amp buzz box welder for forty years. Does what I need. Never used wire feed.

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    I have an old Lincoln 220 Bar Box stick and a 110 Craftsman Wire Feed. I bought the bottle after trying the flux stuff and it looking like boogers thrown out the window. But it sat for a long time and I guess the seal in the regulator went bad and bottle leaked out the minute I opened the valve last time. So I dunno what I would do next time I need it. The gas defiantly makes a nicer weld.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo View Post
    Condor,

    You will still probably need to at least use CO2 even with the flux-core wire.
    Use a helmet with an auto darkening shield to make your life easier. Worth every penny.
    Get some wax type nozzle shield, anti-spatter spray, extra nozzles and tips.
    If you don't have them a pair of MIG nozzle pliers is nice.
    Of course gloves, hat and welding jacket are required also.

    Best advice is to not look at the arc. Learn to watch the shadows it throws to know what is happening.
    Arc should sound a lot like crackling bacon in an open pan.

    Oh and just so you know, there are three types of welds.
    1. Ones that hold.
    2. Ones that look good.
    3. Ones that hold and look good. (This is the most difficult.)

    Have fun learning.

    Argo
    And a gaurd for the front of your neck seems I often forget and end up coming home from work with a nice red triangular sunburn/welding burn covering my Adams apple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saddlebum View Post
    And a gaurd for the front of your neck seems I often forget and end up coming home from work with a nice red triangular sunburn/welding burn covering my Adams apple.
    I've been thinkin' about using a heavy leather buffalo hide riding jacket that I no longer use for welding. Closes up at the neck and protects the arms. Plus it fits my portly frame quite well... :-) I do wonder if SPF lotion would work on the adams apple tan?? I get to go pick up the Lincoln here in a couple of hours... Looking forward to playing... :-0 It's gonna be a couple of days before using. It show'd a 10# spool in the pics, but the label is on the back side... I think?? I just guessed that it was flux since the tip is set up to do flux... no gas hood... If not I'll be in the market for a bottle.... Maybe two??

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    Two biggest beginner mistakes is A) moving along the seam too fast and B) keeping the arc too long (stick welding) or holding the nozzle too far away from the weld (mig welding) if your wire keeps sticking or grounding out your feed is two fast or your currant to low. If your wire seems to be disapearing into the nozzle and just burning back your feed is too slow or your currant set too high. if your burning through your currant is too high. You want to stay with the puddle and just sort of draw it along at a nice pace. LISTEN if it sounds like a nice soft hiss or in the case of an arc welder like bacon softly sissling your pretty much right on the money. if it sounds like your sending a telegraph you need to make some adjustments. This are the simple tips the rest you will pick up on as you progress.
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    Flux core is much more expensive to buy and gas welds are much smoother. CO2 makes a hotter weld but produces more spatter than 75/25. 75/25 is by far my choice unless I'm doing aluminum or stainless when I use straight argon. Click image for larger version. 

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    How do you change a rear tire on that truck?
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    Quote Originally Posted by djh3 View Post
    How do you change a rear tire on that truck?
    If you look close there is a piano hinge above the tire. You remove two bolts in the ledger board and that door hinges up to get to the tire. They brought me their smaller trucks after this one to add that door, before that they had to remove the glass racks for tires. I built this one from cab n chassis.
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