KeithR Posted December 10, 2018 Share #1 Posted December 10, 2018 I went for one major ride this summer and when I returned home my bike wouldn't start after I parked it. I suspected the fuel pump - had no click click. I replaced the fuel pump and all is well. This is a picture of the points in my old pump - I'm guessing they were flat at one time? I've noticed for a couple of summers the bike didn't seem to have the power it once had - I'm guessing this was the reason! Roughly 61000KM's - 38,000 miles 2006 Midnight Venture Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowrollwv Posted December 10, 2018 Share #2 Posted December 10, 2018 WOW! They look to be burnt up. I think someone said that they can be replaced and be good as new, not sure of that. I still have the original pump in my 03. It has never given me any trouble yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithR Posted December 10, 2018 Author Share #3 Posted December 10, 2018 I'm going to replace those points and have a spare pump. Might be worth having a look at your points to avoid trouble down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YamahaLarry Posted December 10, 2018 Share #4 Posted December 10, 2018 I've seen a lot of worn out/burned points in my life, but never any worn that badly in that manner. Surprised it lasted as long as it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowrollwv Posted December 11, 2018 Share #5 Posted December 11, 2018 I'm going to replace those points and have a spare pump. Might be worth having a look at your points to avoid trouble down the road. I have a new one in my saddlebag if and when I need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VentureFar Posted December 11, 2018 Share #6 Posted December 11, 2018 I have a new one in my saddlebag if and when I need it. Mine were almost that bad at just 18,000 miles. Thankfully the good people here told me to just change the points for $30. Now 44,000 miles. I need to get off my lazy butt and check them. VentureFar... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowrollwv Posted December 11, 2018 Share #7 Posted December 11, 2018 Mine were almost that bad at just 18,000 miles. Thankfully the good people here told me to just change the points for $30. Now 44,000 miles. I need to get off my lazy butt and check them. VentureFar... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk My 03 has just under 100,000 miles and the only two things that I have changed is the R/R and the clutch lever other than tires, oil and brake shoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scifiman Posted December 14, 2018 Share #8 Posted December 14, 2018 Gonna have to order myself a set of points, had some issues last year with the Venture and points seems to be the issue. Find a nice LED headlight and that will give me a couple of things to do to the bike over the winter. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithR Posted December 14, 2018 Author Share #9 Posted December 14, 2018 I ordered a set to rebuild my old pump from Fortnine. https://fortnine.ca/en/k-l-universal-fuel-pump-point-switch-kit-18-4615 Keith Gonna have to order myself a set of points, had some issues last year with the Venture and points seems to be the issue. Find a nice LED headlight and that will give me a couple of things to do to the bike over the winter. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scifiman Posted December 15, 2018 Share #10 Posted December 15, 2018 I ordered a set to rebuild my old pump from Fortnine. https://fortnine.ca/en/k-l-universal-fuel-pump-point-switch-kit-18-4615 Keith Nice! Thanks for the link Keith Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDawson Posted January 9, 2019 Share #11 Posted January 9, 2019 Here's mine after 45000. Checked and replaced them during valve check. Luckily it hadn't left me on the side of the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grubsie Posted January 9, 2019 Share #12 Posted January 9, 2019 My 03 has just under 100,000 miles and the only two things that I have changed is the R/R and the clutch lever other than tires, oil and brake shoes. Wow! So your battery is almost 100,000 miles old? You have to send me a link to that battery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike G in SC Posted January 9, 2019 Share #13 Posted January 9, 2019 Mark Shields has replaced points in several failed pumps. I tried once, it failed. I don't know if I sprung the points spring (easy to do) or if another component in the pump was bad. If I did it again, would take a pic of the old and new before swapping. But it's worth a try to get yourself a good spare (not a China knockoff). Here is same points part but from Amazon. A little cheaper. https://www.amazon.com/Supply-Universal-Point-Switch-18-4615/dp/B0034ZMVKU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1547071182&sr=8-1&keywords=Point+Switch+Kit+-+18-4615 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDawson Posted January 9, 2019 Share #14 Posted January 9, 2019 Mark Shields has replaced points in several failed pumps. I tried once, it failed. I don't know if I sprung the points spring (easy to do) or if another component in the pump was bad. If I did it again, would take a pic of the old and new before swapping. But it's worth a try to get yourself a good spare (not a China knockoff). Here is same points part but from Amazon. A little cheaper. https://www.amazon.com/Supply-Universal-Point-Switch-18-4615/dp/B0034ZMVKU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1547071182&sr=8-1&keywords=Point+Switch+Kit+-+18-4615 That's the set I used. Good as new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djh3 Posted January 10, 2019 Share #15 Posted January 10, 2019 Danged if I can remember what we use to do for ignition points when they use to get that "saw tooth" burn pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Du-Rron Posted January 10, 2019 Share #16 Posted January 10, 2019 Danged if I can remember what we use to do for ignition points when they use to get that "saw tooth" burn pattern. add a condensor to absorb the voltage so it doesn't jump the gap when the points are open (damaging the points) and replace worn rubbing block that was not opening points all the way. Could add a condensor to the RSV, cant really adjust the gap because the pump stroke is the points gap. Yes... No... I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithR Posted January 12, 2019 Author Share #17 Posted January 12, 2019 I have been wondering if when I had regulator/rectifier the summer before. I had a used one on there until I could get a OEM one that was putting out a tad too much voltage that would have caused that severe burning of the points ? Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddlebum Posted January 16, 2019 Share #18 Posted January 16, 2019 I have been wondering if when I had regulator/rectifier the summer before. I had a used one on there until I could get a OEM one that was putting out a tad too much voltage that would have caused that severe burning of the points ? Keith Not likely since the difference in available voltage would be negligible. I would be more inclined to think as the pump itself got older that it could possible draw more currant causing a bit of a lingering arc as the points opened. The idea of a condenser added to the system to break the arc does seem like a not bad idea in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djh3 Posted January 17, 2019 Share #19 Posted January 17, 2019 Only the other night when I got to reading this did I think about the condenser thing. It really get the old noggin thinking about that. Might take a little engineering, but probably wouldnt be to bad. When mine gave me a couple DOA going up the road and the final straw was dying at a stop light in a turn lane. Then went solid state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithR Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share #20 Posted January 22, 2019 Is there a way to bench test the pump that I'm going to use as a spare with the new points installed ? Thanks Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
videoarizona Posted January 22, 2019 Share #21 Posted January 22, 2019 Is there a way to bench test the pump that I'm going to use as a spare with the new points installed ? Thanks Keith I would think a simple 12 volt power supply and some liquid and a bucket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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