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  1. Tu Nguyen - @Tutor - has successfully removed the trunk of the '18 Venture to get the Eluder look. With his assistance and permission I pulled from his Facebook posts to create the post below. I also have this in a MS Word and .MHT file formats. I can also make this a PDF to share a little more easily. He deserves full credit for his efforts. Removing Venture Trunk for Eluder Look Tu Nguyen What started as a question asked by a few became a quest to complete. “Just curious if anyone have removed their trunk. How difficult was it?” I was looking at the mechanic manual and it looks like removing the seat to disconnect the connectors and then removing the 4 bolts that is holding the trunk bracket. I asked for any help, as it would be appreciative. Just trying to have an Eluder look for a bit. Well I did it. Trunk removal successful. Some said ‘nope, can’t do it, too many electronics and many other reasons why we shouldn’t undertake this task. Answering questions from some people on various forums and Facebook groups, I came to a process for completing this vision. From the various comments I answered questions that were brought up concerning parts used, wiring issues, and any error codes when the trunk is remove. So far no problems. ***Also read my reply of IF I COULD DO IT OVER*** Some Cautions that I didn't see: Just be careful when you take the trunk off, don not let it lean back and hit the fender. I don't remember doing it, but there are 2 small dents and scratches where the trunks would of lean back. The trunk is heavy and will definitely cause a dent if falls back to hit the fender. (I'm going to blame the dealership for the scratches and dents just so I feel betterfile:///C:/Users/bpate/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.png) ---------------------------------------------------- First, remove the seat and look under the trunk. These are the wires to the trunk. I believe that a quick connect would work. The whole trunk is held in place by the brackets. Left and right is the same. Two bolts per side holding the trunk bracket in place. The back view. Nothing is holding the trunk up beside the main bracket that requires removing 4 bolts. After I disconnected all the connectors, I fired it up and rode around just to make sure no trouble codes came up. No issues so I ordered wire harness connectors I shortened the original wiring harness so the connectors are hidden when disconnected. I used these parts. Each wire was cut in half and connecting a male and female connector to create a quick release. It wasn't bad, but very tedious. There were 31(it's 31 because antenna and CB have shield wires outside of the little wire that acts as ground wire, same as the USB cable) wires to cut. To reconnect male/female connectors it became a tedious 62-connector project, but it was worth the experiment and I love it. In addition, to make sure the wires don't come lose I soldered all the crimping points. I'm planning to get (I still need to research) electrical grease to put in the connector joints to prevent moisture and corrosion. Yes, when you remove the seat, it looks like there are 5 or 6 wire harness, but when you open up the wrapped up bundles, surprise, there are a load of wires I finished doing my quick wiring connects. I soldered all the wire connections so it will not come apart. It was definitely a tedious job. Took probably close to six hours to finish, but I finally did it. After completion, I sealed the ends with silicon so water cannot get in. Here are the results This seat does not cover the connectors. I have a 3M clear adhesive wrap right behind where all the connectors are. Now when I reconnect the trunk all the connectors will not be rubbing on the paint and scratching it. Disconnecting the trunk literally takes less than 30 minutes and 4 bolts is all it takes to remove the trunk. The next issue to address is the part that the Antenna mounts to on an Eluder. I think I want to get it so it can hide the gap between the rear fender and the saddlebags. It fits!!! Eluder seat L molding goes the opposite direction as the Venture seat. Venture L falls inside the hole of the mounting point. Eluder falls behind and slides forward. And yes all your connectors will fit under the mounting point. IF I COULD DO IT OVER: I don't think I would do the rewiring for the disconnect. Looking at the connectors. If you did not want to do a quick disconnects system, you can individually disconnect the connectors. I would take pictures, and maybe mark the connectors so they match and that way you can reroute the wire back together. There are just 9 or 10 connectors that can be removed quickly. In addition, you are not messing with cutting the wires and possibly voiding the warranty. The only wire set that needs to be rewire is the USB and even that if you don't to cut it you can pull it out, but that might be a pain in the butt. Everything else looks like it disconnects. If I remember right. Final Thoughts: The antenna is the only thing left to connect. But even though the connector is not hooked up to an antenna, I still get decent reception. You know how antenna works, I probably can run 2 wires to the connector and let it touch a metal part on the frame and the whole bike will probably act like an antenna. Haven't tried, but right now it gets decent reception. Plus all my music is on a thumb drive connected to the front USB. I use either my thumb drive or Bluetooth my phone over. Also I have radio tuner app on my phone to play pretty much whatever radio station I want. If I had a CB on mine, the only thing I see necessary would be to connect the CB antenna. Final, Final thoughts I timed it and put the trunk back on. It took me a total of 25 minutes. That is removing the Eluder seat, putting on the trunk (tightening the 4 bolts), reconnect the quick connectors, putting the Venture's seat back on, putting all the panels in place. 25 minutes. (If you didn't do the quick connects, add another 10 minutes to connect all the factory connectors back on.) Like I said in my before, I probably would not do the quick connects, just manually disconnect the connectors that's there. So removing the trunk and putting it back on is very do able. SIDE NOTE: Having another person to help put it back on will make it a lot easier. That person can lift and move the trunk in place so you can align the bolts. In addition, when tightening the rear bolts, when you think it's tight it's not. When it felt tight, I looked and there was probably another 1/8 of an inch from the bolt washer to the mount left to go to fully tightening it.
  2. Hello all, I've got a 2005 Venture but was seriously considering stripping it down to just the saddlebags and windshield cruiser look of the deluxe. Has anyone done this that has photos or insight? The removal of the front fairing and trunk looks difficult but I'm not sure. Cheers for your time! Nice to have found you guys! Robb Reno, NV, U.S.
  3. While dealing with a broken trunk mount http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?123851-MKII-trunk-mount I came across another issue. A while back some one talked about the retainers that support the trunk when it's open not being even, of course mine were not. The right side had been bearing the load. This led to about a 3 inch crack right along the arm rest. To prevent any further stress on the trunk lid I just disconnected both sides and it rest on the seat when opened. I will not be using them anymore.
  4. Would like to put a trunk on my 2008 RSTD. What kind and what size do you have?
  5. Saw a 2005 RSMV listed for sale at a local dealer. Nothing special about the bike, few extras like passing lamps, trunk rack, etc. Listed price was $11,999.00 I sent an email wishing them luck!
  6. I got an extra trunk for my '99 from the p.o. and I've got a question. Has anyone though of, or attempted to put speakers in the lower sides of the trunk? I've been trying to come up with a way to get some bigger speakers with a little more umph without putting them in the saddlebag lids, I'm thinking just behind the armrests. Haven't done any exact measurements yet, but I think I might be able to get a 6 1/4" in there. My Chevy Equinox has 6 1/4's w/seperate tweeters and I think that setup would give me about what I'm looking for, no window breaking bass, but just a little more thump. I'd probably lose about 4" on each side inside the trunk, but better there than in the bags. Been spending too much time at night thumbing thru Baggers Magazine I guess.
  7. On an 85 trunk there are two rubber feet that fit in two holes in the mounting rack. This is an 85 only item.. Does anyone have a wrecked trunk from and 85 that I could get these "feet" from?
  8. While getting ready to go for a ride today I noticed that one of the braces that support the trunk bracket was broken at the weld. Has anyone had this happen to them? I have pulled everything and have the trunk bracket pulled and ready to go to the Yamaha shop tomorrow as they are closed today. I have attached a picture. This is a 2007 RSV
  9. I wanted to ask if anyone has ever tried or considered modifying their RSV to make it like an RSTD? I am looking at a used RSV, which the owner has modified with a "quick remove" bracket system that lets the trunk come off. When I looked at it I had the thought of being able to almost turn it into an Tour Deluxe, but still have a back rest for a passenger. With the trunk taken off, does anyone know if it would be possible to outfit an RSV to accept the quick attach/remove sissy bar (with backrest) and luggage rack from a RSTD? (I don't know why, but for some reason that idea/possibility of being able to do that kinda cranks me up!) I would think the Yamaha parts would fit an RSV, but that's just an assumption, I don't really know.... Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions?
  10. Hi, I'm looking to get back to riding after a several year hiatus. I'm looking at a 2003 Venture, and wanted to ask if I could impose on the great members and RSV experts here to tell me if it sounds like a reasonable deal? And I also had a few quick questions about the RSV itself... THE BIKE: It's a 2003 midnight, with custom "silver zoned" paint (see the pics), in seemingly pretty much "like new" condition, and the seller is the original owner. It's got 51K miles, almost all open road miles. It seems to be "loaded", including: a TON of chrome, what seems to be just about every add-on piece of billet chrome Yammy offers, polished/chromed wheels, chromed and polished forks, Khrome Werks pipes, Barons lowering kit, upgraded stereo speakers, Jensen stereo power amp, extra rear lights for brake/running/turn signal. He has also added some kind of modification kit to be able to remove the rear trunk (and has an additional "solo seat") and has installed a secondary antenna hidden in the fairing. (again, see the pics. One of the pics was taken before the custom paint job) I'm going to try to attach a couple of pics, 6 hopefully, and I hope I do this right!! Can anyone suggest anything I should check on or make sure of with a 2003 RSV? Would this bike for $8000 be a reasonable deal? QUESTIONS: Ok, so while I'm imposing on everyone...a few RSV questions: How expensive would it be to have the Barons lowering kit removed, and the bike returned to stock? How hard is it to do? I train with a few motor officers, am lucky enough to be allowed to join them on their obstacle course practice sessions, and I don't like the idea of giving up ground clearance. (I've been told that the Barons kit makes the RSV scrape a LOT easier.) I'm also 6'1", so I think the bike would fit me better without being lowered. Has anyone here modified their RSV to "quick remove" the trunk? Does the RSV handle differently without the trunk? With the trunk off, does anyone know if it would be possible to outfit an RSV to accept the quick attach/remove sissy bar (with backrest) and luggage rack from a RSTD? (I don't know why, but for some reason that idea/possibility of being able to do that kinda cranks me up!) Is it possible to outfit an RSV with the short, "stubby" antenna like a lot of Harley riders do with their Ultras? The 2 antenna on the trunk, I mean? If so, how well do they work? Thank you, all, for your patience...and a special thanks to anyone who might be willing to offer their thoughts! THANKS!!!!!
  11. I bought this 2006 Midnight RSV and the previous owner said he never used the CB, I have read all the threads on CB issues, the problem is the CB will come on and I get a CBERR message and it shuts off after about 15 seconds, I've checked all the connections as described on the forum and I do get 12 volts at the connector at the CB unit uder the trunk. Any Ideas?
  12. Wanting to put an RSV Trunk on my 2006 RSTD . Looking at a 99 venture trunk. Thinking it will fit? Will a 2nd gen oem trunk support fit the 99 RSV trunk and my 06 RSTD. The trunk I'm looking at will need a little repair and new paint to match my bike and is pretty expensive. I am aware of the aftermarket trunks and wompus rack, but just don't like the looks. If any one knows of a RSV Trunk for sale anywhere, I'd be interested.
  13. I would like to move the trunk back on my 93 Royale trike and its not clear to me how to remove the trunk. I would appreciate it if someone could give me a few hints on where to start.
  14. Decided to fix it myself, and pocket the change! I think the ol' rattlecan job looks pretty ok. The bugs wash off better than I expected, too. Next is the trunk and bags. Just a little ratty. Not the whole bike. By the way, I love my new F4 Customs X tall X wide. The vent in front is truly perfect.
  15. I recently mounted this led brake/tail/signal light bar that was on sale here in Ontario at Princes Auto for about $20. I liked this bar as it could be separated from the frame that it came in so it fits neatly under my trunk. Was able to avoid drilling holes by using plastic ties around my trunk rack. Mounted the light bar immediately below the trunk, so my helmet holders including locks are still functional. Used wood shims visible in the picture but not visible from behind to keep the light bar hanging straight. Also, I wired the lights by just plugging into my trailer wiring plug.
  16. Folks, Wondering if these MKII items will fit on a MKI... Travel trunk? (My helment won't fit in my MKI trunk, and see that the MKII trunk is much deeper). Will a MKII trunk fit without much trouble? Passenger footboard mounting plate? I really like the MKII style of flip-down/flip-up footboard, compared to the MKI things I have. Will a MKII mounting plate fit without too much trouble, and will the muffler mounting be compatible? Thanks to all for your input.
  17. What size are the chrome button head socket screws that hold the trunk brackets to the fender? Was leaving for work today and noticed the trunk was loose and one of the screws is missing.
  18. Hello all, Well my 1999 RSV trunk has finally blown apart. A couple of years ago the plastic around the two rear screws shattered, used some JB weld and put it back together. Well, you guessed it, the JB weld only last so long. Does anyone have one they want to get rid of? Or, a good source for one? new they are about $575, found one on ebay for $120. Also, wasn't there a "recall" from Yamaha and they added a steel plate on the bottom of the inside of the trunk? Thanks ahead of time.
  19. This is the 2 1/2 inch reflector that runs from side to side across the back of the Trunk Box. I CAREFULLY tried to lift the reflector off of the black plastic molding that it fits into. BUT....I guess I wasn't careful enough. I cracked it in one spot and broke a corner off it as well. I glued it back together but it still looks like....well.....like it has been broken and glued back together!!!!!! Does anyone have the reflector that would fit an 88 trunk box...or even a later one that has the lights instead of just the reflector? PLEASE? I've invested over $100 in LED's for the trunk (and other spots)...and I don't want it to end up looking like crap.
  20. Just put my 86' back together and one of my favorite features, the trunk light seems to have croaked. Oddly, the hazards don't work. Fuses fine. Are they related? Thanks!
  21. The trunk on my 83 VR has not closed great since I bought it. It looks like the p.o. let it tumble off the bike while driving. The gaps on the top and bottom halves, don't match up when you close the lid. Has anyone tried to tweek the cases on these bikes? I have tried but I am a little scared of breaking them.
  22. I need one of the metal braces/brackets for my 88 trunk It's on the right side (looking from the rear of the bike) It's the offset "L" shaped bracket that runs up the front side of the base section, bends towards the center of the bottom and has the flared plate on the end with 4 mounting holes Mine is broken in two, PO had it welded (badly) and it broke again. If anyone has one , please let me know and we'll work something out. Thanks
  23. I'm on the road in TX for work and need to replace my rear tire on 2001 2nd Gen RSV. Have Avon Venom on both front and rear now. The mechanic I talked to said both Dunlop and Avon are not showing front tires listed for the stock size. Just want to make sure I got my factys straight: Avon Venom Front: AM41 150/80HB-16 Avon Venom Rear: AM42 150/90B-15 Dunlop E3 Front: 150/80-16 Dunlop E3 Rear: MV85B15 Also - the trunk lower locking mechanism mounts all broke on the way out here. These are the mounts that are part of the lower trunk molding. Don't think glue/pvc cement with be strong enough. Anyone else run into this happening? Only thing outside of a new lower trunk I can think of is to fabricate a brace coming from the lower trunk mount bolts. Appreciate any help - MnM
  24. Well its almost done. A few odds and ends and we'll be using it. It started as A Harbor Freight trailer. I narrowed the frame 10". Built the base out of 1/2" plywood and the shell out of 1/4" luan. Wrapped the whole thing in fiberglass and bondo to smooth it out. Used the trunk hinges out of a Ford Taurus. Opened up the reflector between the saddlebags from a 1st Gen Venture, and installed led tail/brake/turn signals for the rear lighting. Along with the trunk hinges I got the electric trunk release, so no keys to get into the trailer. Painted the whole interior white, and plan to install a white led strip for the inside. Also have a remnant of carpeting that need to be cut to fit. Then I'm off to the scales to see how much it weights. I'm guessing around 225 lbs give or take. Then the next decision is a swivel coupler. If I really need it or not. The only trailer I have pulled had one, so I will probably get one. But thats it, in a nutshell. Been an ongoing project for about two years now. Will be glad to finally see how it works.
  25. Well my trunk is in the paint process and it is looking good. Cant wait till I get it back and installed. I went with solid color on trunk with a black bottom and then will add pin striping. Joe
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