Air Horn install - Stebel

[Gained]

From a saved tech install article... unknown contributor who will probably announce him/herself...
With all this talk about adding better horns to our ride I found these and mounted them to my ride in the stock location. Right side just forward and below the passenger foot. These are the one's I used from here:

http://www.adventurersworkshop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=STEBEL_COMPA CT_CHROME&Category_Code=Stebel_Air_Horns (http://www.adventurersworkshop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=STEBEL_COMPACT_CHROME&Category_Code=Stebel_Air_Horns)


Included are a couple of pic's on how they look on the bike. For mounting the horn I used an "L" bracket Bolted to where the Grounding strap mounts onto the engine. and mounted the relay under the cover just beside the right foot of the passanger.

I also have an easy wiring instructions.

A. Pink horn wire goes to RELAY POST 85.
B. Brown horn wire goes to Relay Post 86.
C. Connect one end of a wire to Relay Post 30 and the other end to the Hot side,+, of the compressor
D. Connect end of your 20 amp Fused line to Relay Post 87 and the other end to the Hot Post,+, of your Battery.
E. Connect the negative,-, on compressor to ground or neg,-, post on battery




By using your wiring instructions, does this disconnect the OEM horns? I like your set up and God only knows that the RSV horns leave a lot to be desired. If it is as easy as you say -- then even I can install this thing.


http://www.adventurersworkshop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=STEBEL_COMPACT_CHROME&Category_Code=Stebel_Air_Horns (http://www.adventurersworkshop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=STEBEL_COMPACT_CHROME&Category_Code=Stebel_Air_Horns)




At 139dB these horns are extremely loud and provide that "rock concert" ringing in your ear if you are too close when it goes off.

I've been told that it can be heard almost 3 city blocks away! YEEEOOOWWW!

Dimensions

The Compact Nautilus chrome horns are 4 3/4" tall, 2 3/4" wide, and 4 1/4" deep.






Yes I only had to remove the OEM horn from it's place and then add the new horn where the old one was. The other horn under the faring is still there and still connected and working. As for wiring just follow those instructions and everything will work like it should. The plug on the OEM horn I just cut into 2, their was a small V shaped plastic piece holding the 2 wires together. Once the V piece is cut you can then plug them into the relay directly. I mounted the relay under the battery cover on the side.

[gibvel]

The link in the article doesn't work.....I believe this one will:

To the main horn page:
http://adventurersworkshop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=AWI&Category_Code=Stebel_Air_Horns

To the specific horn page:
http://www.adventurersworkshop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=8007850002163&Category_Code=Stebel_Air_Horns

[99silver]

Seen these @ Vogel and its the best horn option I've seen, looks good and EXTREEEEEMLY LOUD.
Thanks for the post I thought I might not be able to find them.
Gary:thumbsup:

[Mick]

I put one on my 84VR today. It is LOUD.......love it.

[Skid]

I put one on my 84VR today. It is LOUD.......love it.
I've been thinking about adding one to my 86VR, but hasn't decided how or where to put it. Where did you mount yours? pics?

[Mick]

I'll post a picture Friday when I can take shot in daylight.
I have running lights on Squidly brackets so I just made an "L" bracket and mounted it back in opening where you would normally see front right head, bolting to Squid bracket.
Mick

[Crash]

Now that looks good. I wonder if I can ADD that to my electric horns I put on? Both Originals have been removed.
Randy

[hale374]

We talked about this yesterday a little. Check out the thread, post 4 shows pictures of mine mounted on my 05. I must have gotten confused about how loud they are, thinks for correcting me. They are definitely loud and will get people out of your way.

http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=152

[Double D]

This is the horn that I have mounted on my '06 Midnight. For those at Vogel, you can remember how loud it is. I love this horn and it will get you noticed.

[Mick]

This is where I mounted mine on 84VR yesterday.
Nothing fancy but lots of function.

[99silver]

This is the horn that I have mounted on my '06 Midnight. For those at Vogel, you can remember how loud it is. I love this horn and it will get you noticed.

Thanks for the show @ Vogel, my horn is on order and I just rewired my LED brake lite to operate as a running lite also yesterday, as Gomer would say, "SAFETY SAFETY SAFETY":rotf: :cool10: :080402gudl_prv:

Gary

[kbert777]

I've been thinking about adding one to my 86VR, but hasn't decided how or where to put it. Where did you mount yours? pics?

Well, I guess there are at least two choices to mount these on a 1st Gen:

1.) If you have driving light brackets you can mount the horn(s) below the driving lights with the relay hidden behind the side reflector cover. This is how Scott (tooldood) mounted his.

2.) The other possibility is to mount the horn in front of the oil filter under the front spoiler by attaching it with a hose clamp to the frame tube underneath the coolant bleed valve. I think Pegstr came up with this mounting position. I mounted mine the same way, the only problem was that the hose clamp came apart after a few thousand miles, don't know if it was just a faulty (cheap) clamp or if the sharp edge of the mount produced too much strain. I am using a rubber lined band clamp right now, with a bolt going through the original mount on the horn.
According to some reports, you have to use the original oil filter housing, the mounting point will interfere with the Rivco adapter.

Sorry, no pictures of these installation handy right now, have to look around if I find any.

Klaus

[mraf]

I mounted the Stebul inside of my fairing on my 86. I had to modify the right air vent afterwards in order to still receive fresh air through it. It requires you to utilize a piece of heater ductwork {The kind that runs from the exhaust manifold to the air cleaner on the older car or truck engines}. You can just see it in the last pic posted. Even though it is mounted inside of the fairing it is still plenty loud. With this setup I bought some of Sqiudleys fog light brackets and took off my stock horns. Gives my 86 a different look without the stock horns mounted.

[Pegstr]

I don't have pics, but I installed the rivco adapter and the nose cone wouldn't fit, so I modified the nose cone, or my service mgr. at the dealership did it for me. You can cut the plastic below the wire mesh about 1/2 in., then slit the mesh down each side, making it protrude out a little and yet still keeping the mesh in place. Without a pic, I know this will be hard to understand, but if it is done right, you can't tell it wasn't made that way.

[Joe Shrimp]

I saw the "Bad Boy" version of this Steible horn on sale today at Harbor Freight for $34.99. It was the complete package with a horn relay and the chrome button, but black plastic horn parts. That is the best price I've seen.

[99silver]

Installed mine a couple of weeks ago, but I had to make one change to the instuctions on the first post : I had to switch the brown & pink wires cause when I hit the horn button it stayed on ! turned off the key and it still was blasting ! so I had to unplug the wire from the horn switched the brn & pnk wires @ the relay and everything was cool. May have just been my bike, but thats the solution if it happens to you.
Good Luck,
Gary:cool10: :cool10: :cool10:

[rsstar]

OK, would like some help. Called Adventurers Workshop yesterday to order a horn. Two numbers listed...called both and got an answering machine. Left a message but haven't heard from them yet. My question is....is this the only place that carries this horn?? I don't usually call back. If they can't call me after I leave a message, oh well. Thanks in advance!!

[Gary N.]

OK, would like some help. Called Adventurers Workshop yesterday to order a horn. Two numbers listed...called both and got an answering machine. Left a message but haven't heard from them yet. My question is....is this the only place that carries this horn?? I don't usually call back. If they can't call me after I leave a message, oh well. Thanks in advance!!

Apparently this is not a full time job for them and they don't always reply as soon as one would like. I talked to them via e-mail and ordered from their web site with no problems.

[Double D]

Try this site: http://ridesafer.com/store/item/1a82b/Horns/Stebel-Fiamm_Ultimate_Blast_Compact_Air_Horn.html:2143:

[tooldood]

I bought mine from California Sport Touring... best price I found, in stock and great customer service.
I put 2 of them on my 86 VR and it is LOUD!!
http://www.casporttouring.com/store/merchant.mvc

[Freebird]

I too have ordered from Ridersafe and was very pleased with their service.

[Lone Eagle]

OK, would like some help. Called Adventurers Workshop yesterday to order a horn. Two numbers listed...called both and got an answering machine. Left a message but haven't heard from them yet. My question is....is this the only place that carries this horn?? I don't usually call back. If they can't call me after I leave a message, oh well. Thanks in advance!!

I actually got mine from them - called them - had a question and got an answer, I had good customer service. Product shipped immediately and I like the sound. But, appears that there might be other sources as well - :080402gudl_prv:

[Iowa Guy]

From a saved tech install article... unknown contributor who will probably announce him/herself...
With all this talk about adding better horns to our ride I found these and mounted them to my ride in the stock location. Right side just forward and below the passenger foot. These are the one's I used from here:

http://www.adventurersworkshop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=STEBEL_COMPA CT_CHROME&Category_Code=Stebel_Air_Horns (http://www.adventurersworkshop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=STEBEL_COMPACT_CHROME&Category_Code=Stebel_Air_Horns)


Included are a couple of pic's on how they look on the bike. For mounting the horn I used an "L" bracket Bolted to where the Grounding strap mounts onto the engine. and mounted the relay under the cover just beside the right foot of the passanger.

I also have an easy wiring instructions.

A. Pink horn wire goes to RELAY POST 85.
B. Brown horn wire goes to Relay Post 86.
C. Connect one end of a wire to Relay Post 30 and the other end to the Hot side,+, of the compressor
D. Connect end of your 20 amp Fused line to Relay Post 87 and the other end to the Hot Post,+, of your Battery.
E. Connect the negative,-, on compressor to ground or neg,-, post on battery




By using your wiring instructions, does this disconnect the OEM horns? I like your set up and God only knows that the RSV horns leave a lot to be desired. If it is as easy as you say -- then even I can install this thing.


http://www.adventurersworkshop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=STEBEL_COMPACT_CHROME&Category_Code=Stebel_Air_Horns (http://www.adventurersworkshop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=STEBEL_COMPACT_CHROME&Category_Code=Stebel_Air_Horns)




At 139dB these horns are extremely loud and provide that "rock concert" ringing in your ear if you are too close when it goes off.

I've been told that it can be heard almost 3 city blocks away! YEEEOOOWWW!

Dimensions

The Compact Nautilus chrome horns are 4 3/4" tall, 2 3/4" wide, and 4 1/4" deep.






Yes I only had to remove the OEM horn from it's place and then add the new horn where the old one was. The other horn under the faring is still there and still connected and working. As for wiring just follow those instructions and everything will work like it should. The plug on the OEM horn I just cut into 2, their was a small V shaped plastic piece holding the 2 wires together. Once the V piece is cut you can then plug them into the relay directly. I mounted the relay under the battery cover on the side.

Got the Nautalis horn for Christmas and tried to follow directions along with the directions in the package. My goal was to replace the wimpy horns that are already on there. I removed both original horns wired things up as best I could and there was nothing. The Venture has two black wires coming to either horn one of which is hot so I assume comes from the battery. The negative is wired to the horn switch as I understand it. I followed the package instructions that are on the lower right corner (had to use two pair of glasses at the same time for the small print) but nothing happened.

Help
Is there a posting for electrically ignorant first generation do-it-yourselfers?

Iowa Guy
:crying:

[Iowa Guy]

From a saved tech install article... unknown contributor who will probably announce him/herself...
With all this talk about adding better horns to our ride I found these and mounted them to my ride in the stock location. Right side just forward and below the passenger foot. These are the one's I used from here:

http://www.adventurersworkshop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=STEBEL_COMPA CT_CHROME&Category_Code=Stebel_Air_Horns (http://www.adventurersworkshop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=STEBEL_COMPACT_CHROME&Category_Code=Stebel_Air_Horns)


Included are a couple of pic's on how they look on the bike. For mounting the horn I used an "L" bracket Bolted to where the Grounding strap mounts onto the engine. and mounted the relay under the cover just beside the right foot of the passanger.

I also have an easy wiring instructions.

A. Pink horn wire goes to RELAY POST 85.
B. Brown horn wire goes to Relay Post 86.
C. Connect one end of a wire to Relay Post 30 and the other end to the Hot side,+, of the compressor
D. Connect end of your 20 amp Fused line to Relay Post 87 and the other end to the Hot Post,+, of your Battery.
E. Connect the negative,-, on compressor to ground or neg,-, post on battery




By using your wiring instructions, does this disconnect the OEM horns? I like your set up and God only knows that the RSV horns leave a lot to be desired. If it is as easy as you say -- then even I can install this thing.


http://www.adventurersworkshop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=STEBEL_COMPACT_CHROME&Category_Code=Stebel_Air_Horns (http://www.adventurersworkshop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=STEBEL_COMPACT_CHROME&Category_Code=Stebel_Air_Horns)




At 139dB these horns are extremely loud and provide that "rock concert" ringing in your ear if you are too close when it goes off.

I've been told that it can be heard almost 3 city blocks away! YEEEOOOWWW!

Dimensions

The Compact Nautilus chrome horns are 4 3/4" tall, 2 3/4" wide, and 4 1/4" deep.






Yes I only had to remove the OEM horn from it's place and then add the new horn where the old one was. The other horn under the faring is still there and still connected and working. As for wiring just follow those instructions and everything will work like it should. The plug on the OEM horn I just cut into 2, their was a small V shaped plastic piece holding the 2 wires together. Once the V piece is cut you can then plug them into the relay directly. I mounted the relay under the battery cover on the side.


I got the stebel air horn for Christmas but I have failed to get it hooked up right so far. I don't have any pink or brown wires on my 89, just two black ones that go to each of the original horns on either side mounted near the running lights. One of the wires is hot so I assume is from the battery. Is the other negative and is connected to the horm button? I followed the instructions on the package insert (had to use two pair of glasses at once for the small print) located on the lower right corner but nothing.

Is there a posting to help a electrically ignorant 1st gen owner and do-it-yourselfer?

Iowa Guy

:crying:

[VTirelli]

OK OK I ordered mine now............if its as loud as you say, I'll be happy with it.

[Crash]

I would like to put this horn on my Suzuki Vitara car since the stock horn is as bad as the Venture. Do I need the rewire and relay it etc or can I just exchange horns?

[Boomer]

Here's some expanded information regarding the Stebel Nautilus Horn.

[Mean Dog]

Got mine on the way! Can't wait to scare the Nun's down the street!

Dog

[royal46]

I got a question here is it the loudest horn on the market? Because Im looking for something very loud.

[Boomer]

I got a question here is it the loudest horn on the market? Because Im looking for something very loud.

I don't know if it's the loudest, but at 139db it's loud enough for me!!
I was playing around with it late last night and bumped the wires on the battery just to hear it. I nearly s**t myself!!

[royal46]

;) Hey Boomer thats sound good enought to mee so I better instal the same one on my bike.

Thanks Boomer

[Carbon_One]

I finally got my Stebel air horn mounted up. After making a small bracket I mounted it where the stock horn was at on the right side of the bike. Pictures are below of the install and what the bracket looks like.

I didn't use the stock horn wiring thou as I wanted to give the horns as much power as was possible from the battery. I ran a completely separate wiring set up by running a 16 gauge wire from the battery , thru a covered rubber mini-fuse holder, and then to the relays #30 post. For the activation wire I used the right side stock horn wire which has power on when the key is on which goes to the #86 post of the relay. Going from the #87 post of the relay I ran the wire to the + post of the air horn. The - post of the air horn I grounded at the air horn mounting bolt. To activeate the horn I then run a 20 guage wire from the other stock horn terminal (That wire runs to the horn button) to the #85 post of the relay.
Once you press the horn button it'll ground the horn relay allowing power to flow thru from the battery to the horn IF you turn on the key first.

The bracket is 1/8" ( 10 gauge) stainless steel x 3" long bent in the middle at 90*. A 1/4" hole for the mounting bolt at the engine case ( where the groung strap is at) and a 5/16" hole for the bolt attaching the air horn to it. If you look closely you'll also see a notch I cut out to clear the rib of the clutch housing.

I also have a second set of Stebel magnum horns (electric) mounted on the bike too. One is under the fairing and the other is under left lower cowling in the stock location. I had these mounted previously but wasn't sure if they were as loud as could be being under cover. Yes they are louder than the stock beepers were.

Did I need both set ups? Probably not but if for any reason the air horn fails there's the other two to for back up. All are on the same circut described above. To me the sound level appears to be about the same. Maybe the air horn a bit more which I attribute to being out in the open.
Larry

[Boomer]

I didn't see any photos on my end, but I think I have figured it out as well.

I run twin Fiamms horns in the front fairing as well. With those and the Stebel hooked up, I should be able to easily grease the pants of anyone coming over on me! :rotf:

[Boomer]

Got the photos....thanks Larry. She's purdy.....

Hey, where did you get that really neat bike stand!! LOL!!!

[Carbon_One]

I didn't see any photos on my end, but I think I have figured it out as well.

I run twin Fiamms horns in the front fairing as well. With those and the Stebel hooked up, I should be able to easily grease the pants of anyone coming over on me! :rotf:
My thoughts exactly too. I had to go back and resize the pics as they were too big
Larry

[Boomer]

How much for a Carbon One Stebel Horn Mount Bracket??:confused24:

[Carbon_One]

How much for a Carbon One Stebel Horn Mount Bracket??:confused24:
Boomer I have one made up for you. I'll send it out tomorrow. More info to follow later.
Larry

[Boomer]

Awesome Sir.

I made one from a standard angle bracket but I'm not happy with it. SS on the otherhand is the cats meow! Problem is I don't have any!

Thanks Larry!

[Boomer]

OK, so me, Carbon_One and some others just bought the compact Nautilus from Stebel and now they are promoting "more chrome" on these new units. The price was around $42. The standard model with less chrome is about $36. So what do you get for the extra $6??

See photos.....what you get are chromed plastic covers for the horn diaphragms on the unit. Not so bad I suppose.

Since tthe back side of the horn is not seen, I removed this one from the horn and will keep it as a spare in case I lose the one outboard or scratch it up.

$6 for a little extra bling?

Yeah, I'll pay that...:cool10:

Enjoy!

[Carbon_One]

OK, so me, Carbon_One and some others just bought the compact Nautilus from Stebel and now they are promoting "more chrome" on these new units. The price was around $42. The standard model with less chrome is about $36. So what do you get for the extra $6??

See photos.....what you get are chromed plastic covers for the horn diaphragms on the unit. Not so bad I suppose.

Since tthe back side of the horn is not seen, I removed this one from the horn and will keep it as a spare in case I lose the one outboard or scratch it up.

$6 for a little extra bling?

Yeah, I'll pay that...:cool10:

Enjoy!

Good idea on saving that back cover. Like you say it's hardly noticable.

Larry

[Lone Eagle]

Too bad Steibel doesn't sell just the chrome diaphram for those of us who already have the horn with the black cover.

[Boomer]

It's all MARKETING!

[Monsta]

I see a lot of you guys face the horns to the outside. I know it's loud and all but facing it forward really puts the sound where it needs to be. :) I just made a bracket and twisted it so that it would face forward. I doesn't interfere with my legs or the passenger's legs. Just a thought...

I gotta get me a chrome one now! :D

http://www.venturerider.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4949&d=1167430777

[Boomer]

You go Boy!:cool10:

[Midrsv]

All this talk about horns made me want one. I just ordered a chrome one from my local accessory shop for $41.95. Now I just gotta figure out how to hook the thing up.

DT

[Carbon_One]

Ok folks I'm going to offer mounting brackets for these air horns to be mounted where the right side stock horn currently sits. I should know in a day or two how much they'll cost you all.
They'll be made of stainless steel and polished.
I'll post back here with pics and details later. look for my ad in the classified as well once I get this off the ground.
Larry

[SALTY]

Ok folks I'm going to offer mounting brackets for these air horns to be mounted where the right side stock horn currently sits. I should know in a day or two how much they'll cost you all.
They'll be made of stainless steel and polished.
I'll post back here with pics and details later. look for my ad in the classified as well once I get this off the ground.
Larry


Larry U have the diamiondR horn plate that goes behind the horn...anychance this would work with your mounts?
Salty

[Carbon_One]

Larry U have the diamiondR horn plate that goes behind the horn...anychance this would work with your mounts?
Salty
Hi Salty
Ok I just took a look at the DiamondR horn plate. While I do think you could use that plate with the Stebel air horn it's not compatable with my bracket. Also that plate would cause the air horn to protude out further than my bracket & horn combination.
My bracket will allow the Stebel horn to be tucked back into the horn area more. Basicly it's a "L" shaped piece of stainless steel that will bolt to the same bolt that is the battery ground strap bolt.
Go to page 4 post #32 of this topic and you'll see the pics I put up of my bracket fastened to the air horn before and after it's mounted to the bike.
Larry

[99silver]

Larry, I made mine where it drops down from the ground attatchment and makes a U turn and the horn sits on the bracket !!! no chance of it comming off even if it loosens. a little cold to go out and take pic's but I think its a good design.:confused24:
Gary

[Carbon_One]

Larry, I made mine where it drops down from the ground attatchment and makes a U turn and the horn sits on the bracket !!! no chance of it comming off even if it loosens. a little cold to go out and take pic's but I think its a good design.:confused24:
Gary
Can't visualize that right off but there's always more than one way to do the job.
Larry

[99silver]

Can't visualize that right off but there's always more than one way to do the job.
Larry
Your right MY way or the WRONG way !!
JK:rotf: :rotf:
Gary

[Carbon_One]

Your right MY way or the WRONG way !!
JK:rotf: :rotf:
Gary
Yea I'd thought of that statement myself but didn't want to be a smartypants here. :stirthepot: :whistling:
Larry

[99silver]

I better get off here before someone takes me serious.

Gary

[Carbon_One]

Ok for those of you who want a simple yet effective horn mount for these Stebel air horns here's my bracket I promised to produce.
They're made from 1/8" stainless steel and polished nicely.
They'll cost $15 which includes shipping by priority mail. You can either pay for it at lskeels@wowway at PayPal or e-mail me for my address if sending a money order.
See the pics on page 4 post #32 of this topic for the pics.
Larry

[FreezyRider]

Larry, I made mine where it drops down from the ground attatchment and makes a U turn and the horn sits on the bracket !!! no chance of it comming off even if it loosens. a little cold to go out and take pic's but I think its a good design.:confused24:
Gary

I'd sure like to see some good photos of your setup.....and cold is no excuse!! Heck, cameras don't care how cold it is!!!:cool10:

[99silver]

I'd sure like to see some good photos of your setup.....and cold is no excuse!! Heck, cameras don't care how cold it is!!!:cool10:
Well, I got over the flue replaced the clothes dryer and repaired the washing machine and took the camera to the garage when I put my tools away.
Gary

[Midrsv]

Just got my horn installed this weekend. Man that thing is loud! I cana't wait until the next cage tries to move into my space. This horn will knock them back into their lane.

I made my bracket out of a 3/4" wide section of 2 1/2" angle stock and it is 3/16" thick and very sturdy.

DT

[PERM44]

I just installed my Stebel horn, in the place where my old horn was, and the connections on the bottom of the horn are very close to the pipes. Has anyone has had any problem with the wires melting? I did bend the connections almost at a 90 deg angle to get a little more clearance. Just wondering if any of the guys that have the horn installed in this manner have had any problems.

[Midrsv]

I just installed my Stebel horn, in the place where my old horn was, and the connections on the bottom of the horn are very close to the pipes. Has anyone has had any problem with the wires melting? I did bend the connections almost at a 90 deg angle to get a little more clearance. Just wondering if any of the guys that have the horn installed in this manner have had any problems.

I thought the same thing. I took a dremel tool and cut slots in the plastic cap and then bent the connectors so that they don't protrude below the cap. Once the weather improves I'll be able to test it. The thing is loud though, isn't it.

DT

[99silver]

I install 90 degree connectors on mine and clearance is no problem, although I was concerned and kept a close watch for awhile.

Gary

[Boomer]

I just installed my Stebel horn, in the place where my old horn was, and the connections on the bottom of the horn are very close to the pipes. Has anyone has had any problem with the wires melting? I did bend the connections almost at a 90 deg angle to get a little more clearance. Just wondering if any of the guys that have the horn installed in this manner have had any problems.

Not yet. I did use 90 deg connectors though just to help. The bottom of my horn is about 1/2" from the heat shield that runs along the top of that pipe. I ran it hard today and checked it our when I got back in. No issues.

[PERM44]

Thanks for the ideas. I may take some of the plastic off w/ the dremel. If I can find some of those 90 deg. connectors, that should give me plenty of clearance. I'll still keep an eye on them for a while.

[Boomer]

Thanks for the ideas. I may take some of the plastic off w/ the dremel. If I can find some of those 90 deg. connectors, that should give me plenty of clearance. I'll still keep an eye on them for a while.

You can pick up the wiring connectors at most any auto parts store. Usually come 8-10 in a small package. Not sure what wire size you used, but I used 14 ga. stranded. The blue ones are for 16-14 gauge wire.
:080402gudl_prv:

[bobo]

You can pick up the wiring connectors at most any auto parts store. Usually come 8-10 in a small package. Not sure what wire size you used, but I used 14 ga. stranded. The blue ones are for 16-14 gauge wire.
:080402gudl_prv:
I just carefully bent the straight ones to 90 degrees... :whistling:

[AZSpyder]

Has anyone been able to compare the Stebel and the Harbor Freight Wolo Bad Boy horn? Its just two blocks away and on sale again.
I have my doubts about any horn being able to hit 139dB but I have no doubt the Stebel is very loud from all the postings on this thread. The bad boy is rated at 118dB but may be measured differently.
:biker: Jerry

[gibvel]

Has anyone been able to compare the Stebel and the Harbor Freight Wolo Bad Boy horn? Its just two blocks away and on sale again.
I have my doubts about any horn being able to hit 139dB but I have no doubt the Stebel is very loud from all the postings on this thread. The bad boy is rated at 118dB but may be measured differently.
:biker: Jerry

Okay, This db stuff is just a little misleading. It's funny but I read in, either the manual or something on line that the Stebel is rated at 139db, this is true......however, in the fine print it states 139db @ 4". So, while it's loud and I'm glad I got the horn, I guess you have to qualify from what distance they are taking the SPL reading.:Bunny:

Don't think many people are going to have their ears 4" from the horn when it goes off......except the guys who've mis wired the thing and have it go off when they make the final connection. :rotf:

[Mean Dog]

Well I got my horn hooked up yesterday and I got to say it is pretty loud. Not ear splitting as I was imagining but, loud nun the less! I followed these instructions:

I also have an easy wiring instructions.
A. Pink horn wire goes to RELAY POST 85.
B. Brown horn wire goes to Relay Post 86.
C. Connect one end of a wire to Relay Post 30 and the other end to the Hot side,+, of the compressor
D. Connect end of your 20 amp Fused line to Relay Post 87 and the other end to the Hot Post,+, of your Battery.
E. Connect the negative,-, on compressor to ground or neg,-, post on battery
I only had to remove the OEM horn from it's place and then add the new horn where the old one was. The other horn under the faring is still there and still connected and working. As for wiring just follow those instructions and everything will work like it should. The plug on the OEM horn I just cut into 2, their was a small V shaped plastic piece holding the 2 wires together. Once the V piece is cut you can then plug them into the relay directly. I mounted the relay under the battery cover on the side.
And I used Carbon One's stainess steel bracket.

All went well and it works like a charm! Thanks everyone for the usefull information and Carbon One, I greatly appreciate the bracket my friend!

http://www.ultimatemyspace.com/i/smilies/party/party0038.gif

Dog

[Carbon_One]

You're welcome Dog. After I made that bracket for my bike it worked just too good to keep to myself. Just had to share it with everyone who was looking for a clean install when using the Stebel horn.
Larry

[Christo]

Using MeanDog's wiring and a modified version of Carbon_One's under the Faring techniques I was able to hook up a total of 3 horns. It made my wife and kid crap their pants.

DO NOT USE the wiring diagram in those Fiam instructions, it will cause your horns to work when turning on/off the bike key ignition switch.

I was able to find the "other" wire needed when installing those dual horns under the faring as described by Carbon_One. There is a brown wire on the right side of the faring I tapped/spliced into. So now I have dual horns under the faring and the Stebel Air horn where the stock chrome horn was.
And they all work as expected!

I will post the pictures in my gallery for anyone to see.

It is nice to be no longer silent to other drivers!

Now I just need to get a bracket to hold that Stebel horn better. I made a make-shift one using pipe bracket material in the interim. So I am hoping Carbon_One gets in touch with me soon.

Thanks to Dog and Carbon for being the pioneers/guinea pigs! ;-)

[scooter38]

OK guys need some help here, I got my Stebel Air Horn during the week from www.twistedthrottle.com and I got the plug and play wiring kit to go with it figuring to make it eaiser to install. Well the connections they have are different from what I have seen here, which are, connect the black wire from the relay post 85 to the ground, so I hooked up to the battery negative. Run the red wire from the relay post 30 with the built in 30amp fuse to the positive battery terminal. Run the yellow wire, from post 87 and hook up to the positive of the air horn. Next connect the ground wire to the negative side of the horn and ground it at the mounting bolt. Install the fuse next. Next run the blue wire from post 86 to the existing horn hot wire. Ok so here's the deal got it all done tried the pink wire first and the horn was quiet and was on at time of turning key on. So tried the brown wire, and same thing. SO then tried both together and got the sound I was looking for from the horn but it still, as soon as I turned the key on the horn sounded. I'm curious as to what will happen if I take the wire on post 85 and hook that up to the pink wire and just hook the brown one up to the post at 86. Any ideas or knowledge of what will make this work with the wiring kit, or am I better off just wiring it the way Larry has it? I do like the whole connection thing they include nice wire harness to plug right into the relay, makes for a clean look and easy to unplug. Anyway, any help would be appeciated, Scott.

[Christo]

Scott,
You are on the right track. There is another post here that tells you which color wire with which - so here it is:

Originally Posted by Rick Butler http://www.venturerider.org/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?p=80339#post80339)
You know guys,

After installing horns with relays all these years, I finally realized there was really a simplier method to wiring up a 4 post relay, especially on horns.

Once you realize that you need fused power from the battery to the relay and power out to the horn (30 in and 87 out) then the other pins (85 and 86) purpose is just to act as a trigger to power the internal switch to switch power from 30 to 87 (per Buddy's relay diagram).

With the stock horn you always have a positive and negative connection (pink and black, I think). And these wires are a pretty small diameter because the stock horns don't pull many amps. It's these 2 wires that you connect to posts 85 and 86 and it really doesn't matter which post get's the positive or negative.

The only other consideration is to make sure the horn has a good heavy ground, either to a second post on the horn (if you have a horn with 2 posts) or the center bolt of the horn (if it only has one post). And for this I always choose to ground to the bike's frame.

Now with this concept, I don't need to refer to a relay schematic any longer. And if you can't remember which post is connected to the battery, it's always the post (30) that is turned different from the others. And the post directly accross from it (87) goes to the item you want to power. And for the other 2 (85 and 86) you just need a switched power source for one and a ground to the other. And when I say a switched power source, you do not want a constant power source, unless you want your horns to blow as soon as the bike is powered on. And these wires don't need to be very heavy because they are just drawing mili-amps. There have been times that I have used small double conductor speaker wire when I needed to wire in a switch into the circuit, like for lights. The wires to posts 30 and 87 need to be much heavier because they can be pulling up to 30 amps with 2 horns or 2 off road running lights.

Hope this helps,

Rick

[scooter38]

Yup that should help out just fine thanks a million, gonna get that finished today and the weather is to be about mid 70 today so maybe I'll get to try out he horn this afternoon. Scott

[SamB]

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I am getting ready to install a Stebel Air Horn. Your instuctions say that the post 30 and the + side of the horn are to be connected and the + post of the battery and post 87 are to be connected . The Stebel instuctions have them reversed. Do you know something that can help me out ? Being they are Italian made, I was hoping to get it right.

Thanks

[SaltyDawg]

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I am getting ready to install a Stebel Air Horn. Your instuctions say that the post 30 and the + side of the horn are to be connected and the + post of the battery and post 87 are to be connected . The Stebel instuctions have them reversed. Do you know something that can help me out ? Being they are Italian made, I was hoping to get it right.

Thanks

I just installed one yesterday and followed these directions and it worked fine.

A Pink horn wire to post 85
B Brown Horn Wire to post 86
C Post 30 to + side of horn
D 20 amp fused from batt to post 87
E Ground - side of horn to engine ground.

Just like in the first post of this thread.

[SamB]

Just completed the install following your directions, it works FINE , But forgot about the warning of not testing it in the garage.

Sign language classes start at the Community College tomorrow!

[KiteSquid]

Does anybody have issues with the chrome coating coming off the the Stebel Natulis horns??

I am thinking about purchasing them, but should I get the black one and mount it somewhere "hidden" or get the chrome one and put it in the stock location..........

[SaltyDawg]

The chrome is "Plastic chrome" and so far I haven't had a problem with it. Not the prettiest thing you ever saw but no need to hide it either. Get Carbon_One's stainless steel bracket and mount it where the original horn is.

Wayne

[KiteSquid]

Thanks!!!

Where can I find it for the best price, delivered?

[SaltyDawg]

Thanks!!!

Where can I find it for the best price, delivered?


http://www.casporttouring.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=Stebel11185&Category_Code=Security

[Boomer]

Kite Squid...Yes, the chrome is coming off mine too.

[Carbon_One]

Kite Squid...Yes, the chrome is coming off mine too.

I've rubbed a spot off the top from getting on & off the bike. Hardly noticable unless you look for it. But as noted the chrome isn't really chrome but a painted on process. Eventually I'll either have the cover rechromed or just spray paint it with chrome paint. Maybe even a wrinkle finish black would look OK.
Anyhow I'll worry about that when the time comes
Larry

[Obber]

Thanks!!!

Where can I find it for the best price, delivered?


Found this on Ebay;

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/STEBEL-NAUTILUS-BLACK-COMPACT-12-VOLT-139-DB-AIR-HORN_W0QQitemZ320138880239QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6779Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Or if you have a Harbor Freight around you they carry the black one. They put them on sale from time to time for $34.99. Thats where I got mine. Pictured below on the bike.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=94117

[eagleeye]

OK, here is my question:

Why are you all putting these loud horns on? The only people that I see that use horns, are the people on the coast or big cities that are in a big hurry.
I've used my horn to see if it works, but if I needed it, I think I'd be better off figuing out a plan of excape, rather than blowing my horn.

Or is it that you just like adding stuff? :)

Just wondering,

Steve

[McBrush]

OK, here is my question:

Why are you all putting these loud horns on? The only people that I see that use horns, are the people on the coast or big cities that are in a big hurry.
I've used my horn to see if it works, but if I needed it, I think I'd be better off figuing out a plan of excape, rather than blowing my horn.

Or is it that you just like adding stuff? :)

Just wondering,

Steve
You make a valid point, but I can think of...
- a time someone was backing up into me
- a time when someone forgot to look and almost pulled out into the street in front of me
- a time when I wanted to get a co-rider's attention
and most of all
- a few times I wanted to give someone the finger, but didn't want to raise my arm...:rotf:

[eagleeye]

a few times I wanted to give someone the finger, but didn't want to raise my arm...:rotf:

Why didn't I think of that?

Steve

[KiteSquid]

I would use it to be louder than the un-corked HD on a group ride.....:179:

[Thor2000]

I just bought the blue 2007 Venture. I put the bag rails on and seen yours with lights in the rails. Where did you get them?
Also, I was looking for the LED tail/break light to put on the trunk. I seen you have one but it is underneath. Where did you get that?

Hope to hear from you soon.

My name is Greg (Thor) and I live in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.

TTYL

[Boomer]

I converted the OEM reflectors to LED's on both the front and rear. The rears are easy but the fronts are a b***h to do if you want to keep a decent mount for them. I took photos of this and plan to post it soon. You can buy the reflector LED's from JC Whitney.
As for the rear LED bar, that came from Auto Zone and cost about $14. It is actually designed to fit in a car rear window but can be adapted for your use. This item is made by Pilot and ma be hard to find now. There are other great LED bars in the aftermarket for this use.

Good luck!

[KiteSquid]

I put on the Stebel air horn using the Stainless Steel bracket that Carbon one sells.

Mounting the horn was EASY using the bracket!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The hardest part was figuring out where to mount the relay.


this horn gets ATTENTION!!!!!!! it is LOUD!!!!

I would like this horn on my cages to.......


I think that the Stabel air horn should be the first upgrade that anybody puts on their bike, or that Yamaha should put them on at the factory!!!!!!!

[Rick Butler]

Guys,

I'm installing one of these on a friend's bike (with the RSV bracket) and have a question for those of you who have already installed theirs.

It appears that the positive and negative wires going into the bottom to the wiring spades are very close to the pipes. I would think these wire connectors will get too hot? Is there anything anyone did to get around this situation or is this even a problem?

Thanks,

Rick

[Carbon_One]

Rick there's two ways of solving this. One is to bend over the tabs as far as they'll go with the connected wires in place or two is to solder the wires directly to the terminals.
On my bike I just bent the tabs over. Haven't had any issuses yet with wires getting hot or melted. I did pull up the wires and zip tied then so as they couldn'y fall or relax and then get in touch with the exhaust.
I'm sure there's other ways of doing this too.
Larry

[Rick Butler]

Thanks Larry,

Your first solution was my first option. I just wanted someone to reinforce what I was considering.

Rick

[KiteSquid]

If you look at the pipes, they are not pipes, but heat shields that are over the real pipes..... so the connectors will not get too hot.

I did as stated above, and bent the connectors, however I think that there are 90 degree female connectors on the market...

Soldering the wires on and potting them with RTV (silicone caulk) or epoxy is probably a better solution. this was done by somebody else here, but sadly I don't remember who...

[Schlepporello]

Well, I thought about it for a week, then went to Harbor Freight and bought me one of those "Bad Boy" air horns. I knew I'd need to make a new bracket to mount the horns with, so when I was making a delivery to a local truck trailer manufacturer here I asked if they just happened to have a small piece of scrap aluminum diamond plate that I could talk them out of. All they said they had was a piece of stuff that was 3/8" thick. I said that would be perfect, and it was! They gave me an 8" square piece of the stuff. So with scrap and horns in hand, I set myself to work today.

I cut a new mounting bar similar to the one for the stock left horn with the exception of being 6" long. I pulled the stock horn and mounting bar from that location and mounted the new bar and horn in that location. I then pulled the panel for the cassette deck. I routed all of my wiring up through a gap on the inside and hooked up my relay there as well as securing the relay to the front part of that compartment. I still had plenty of room to reinstall the cassette deck. I had wired the horns up exactly as the instructions directed me to. Got everything hooked up, tucked everything away, turned the key and hit the horn button. To my exuberant glee the horns blew triumphantly. I've got horns!

Next I plan on fabricating a new mounting bar for the right side horn, I'm gonna put a matching unit over on the right side.:D I also plan on adding an upward extension of the bar directly over the horn to facilitate mounting an additional headlight just above the horn. That is, unless I find a better place to mount additional headlights.

[Maritimer]

Pictures would be nice once you get the second one mounted and the lights.

[Semi-retired]

Does anyone happen to know where there might be a couple of up-close-and-personal shots of the Stebel installation location? (top, side, back view would be great. (the link below, if it went to these shots, is dead; FATAL ERROR message.)

Either I'm not understanding exactly how/where the little devil gets mounted, or Stebel has changed the casting so that it mounts differently than it used to.

The one I just bought (a new chrome Stebel Compact) has a protrusion out the top-back with a VERTICAL hole drilled in it. The bolt on the engine (near the horn) (referred to in other posts) which secures the grounding strap, is also of the VERTICAL persuasion. This kinda suggests that just a straight, flat bracket with a hole in each end would secure the horn.

I'm able to shoot and post pictures of what I'M looking at, but thought I'd save "re-inventing the wheel" if there are already some pix on the site that will straighten my little brain out!

Thanks for any info, guys!

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http://www.adventurersworkshop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=STEBEL_COMPA (http://www.adventurersworkshop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=STEBEL_COMPACT_CHROME&Category_Code=Stebel_Air_Horns) CT_CHROME&Category_Code=Stebel_Air_Horns


Included are a couple of pic's on how they look on the bike. For mounting the horn I used an "L" bracket Bolted to where the Grounding strap mounts onto the engine. and mounted the relay under the cover just beside the right foot of the passanger.

http://www.adventurersworkshop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=STEBEL_COMPACT_CHROME&Category_Code=Stebel_Air_Horns (http://www.adventurersworkshop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=STEBEL_COMPACT_CHROME&Category_Code=Stebel_Air_Horns)

[Gilligan]

With the help on here I was able to fabricate a bracket, wire up and was riding within an hour or so. I am going to have the bracket drawn up.

[SilvrT]

With the help on here I was able to fabricate a bracket, wire up and was riding within an hour or so. I am going to have the bracket drawn up.

Here's how I did mine...
http://venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=41530&highlight=stebel

[bikerjohn]

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What did youo use to mount to the mounting bracket