2nd Gen Fuel Filter

[N3FOL]

I have almost 13K miles on the bike. In the not so distant future, I plan to replace my fule filter since it is cheap preventative maintenance for my bike. I've read about the NAPA 3011 fuel fitler, but not sure if this if for a 1st Gen or 2nd Gen. At any rate, I may opt for an OEM type filter or go for a 'car' fuel filter.

What do you guys recommend and the best place to order online?

[BigBoyinMS]

I haven't replaced mine on the RSV yet but I did on my Road Star. I did a little research and found this one (http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/PartDetail.asp?Part=33011). The reason that I picked this particular one is two-fold...
First, it filters down to 12 micron where most others that I have found are 40-80 micron. And flow is not a problem. I took the pump off of my Roadie and am gravity feed only and it provides all the fuel that it needs.
Secondly, it was less than $5. :hihi:

EDIT: LoL I just checked and the 33011 WIX is the NAPA 3011. Sounds like the way to go!

[N3FOL]

BigBoyinMS, good info. Looks like the NAPA 3011 is possible. I guess using a car fuel filter does not really matter, if one uses it on a RSV. As long as they are the same size and the spec is comparable to the OEM filter, this is probably the way to go since I pass by NAPA every day 5 times or more a week.:motorcyclehelmet:

[N3FOL]

This is what I found online...

SKU: 1FK-24560-10-00
FILTER ASSY1$9.12

# 28 under 'Fuel Tank' drawing. http://www.foxyamaha.com/pages/parts/viewbybrand/2/Yamaha.aspx

[Ruffy]

I use an automotive type filter in mine. I bought one which was slightly thinner than the stock one so I dont have the hassle of getting it out of the holder. I just pull up on the fuel line and un-do the clamps. Makes replacement much easier.

[Freebird]

This is what I found online...

SKU: 1FK-24560-10-00
FILTER ASSY1$9.12

# 28 under 'Fuel Tank' drawing. http://www.foxyamaha.com/pages/parts/viewbybrand/2/Yamaha.aspx




The cheapest shipping option is $12.00 for UPS ground. Pretty typical. To me, these type products are usually cheaper at your local dealer if you have one close by. I can buy the filter for about $12.00 including tax from my local dealer as opposed to ordering it online for a total, including shipping, of about $21.00.

[N3FOL]

I use an automotive type filter in mine. I bought one which was slightly thinner than the stock one so I dont have the hassle of getting it out of the holder. I just pull up on the fuel line and un-do the clamps. Makes replacement much easier.

Hello Ruffy. Just curious. What type of car filter did you use on your Venture?

[N3FOL]

The cheapest shipping option is $12.00 for UPS ground. Pretty typical. To me, these type products are usually cheaper at your local dealer if you have one close by. I can buy the filter for about $12.00 including tax from my local dealer as opposed to ordering it online for a total, including shipping, of about $21.00.

I contacted SHSPowersports.com and got a price for the filter of $8.00. Robert at SHSPowersports.com said that he will discount shipping down to $4.00 since it is a small part for a total of $12.00...pretty close to your cheapest find. I appreciate your input and you do have a point on getting the filter locally as opposed to having it shipped...later on today, I'll be calling my local Yamaha dealer and find out how much will a Fuel Filter cost. I will post this afternoon for the local price.

[Ruffy]

Hello Ruffy. Just curious. What type of car filter did you use on your Venture?

I have the part # somewhere in the garage..ill post it later on for you. I think its a ford filter.

[Ruffy]

Hello Ruffy. Just curious. What type of car filter did you use on your Venture?

Sorry it took so long to get back to you but......its a Purolator filter # F100 24

[N3FOL]

Ruffy,

Thanks for the part number and took note of it. The next time I replace my fuel filter, Purolator will be my next choice.

I just placed my order yesterday at SHSPowersports for an OEM fuel filter for $8.78 + $4.00 S&H, total of $12.78 shipped in front of my door. My local Yamaha dealer 16 miles away has the same OEM fuel filter for $15.05 a filter. So it was a no brainer for me to order the part online and have it shipped.

A few minutes ago, I inquired on the Purolator F100 24 that you posted as a replacement and our local Advance Auto sells the filter for $4.00 each...much better price. :sun:

[Whitlow]

Where is the filter located on the RSV 2 Gen? I have 15,000 miles should I change it?
Thanks

[N3FOL]

Take off the left and center cover behing the battery and you will see the fuel pump. Next to the fuel pump to its right (if I am not mistaken) is the fuel filter.

For you at 15K miles, I say go ahead and replace that with the F100 24 Purolator Fuel Filter for around $4 dollars.

FWIW, I change the fuel filter on my tractor every year no matter how much I use it. I plant to replace my Venture's fuel filter every year as well.:thumbsup:

[RandyR]

Is anyone using fuel filters with replaceable elements? (ie replaceable internal filters)

[Color01]

For you at 15K miles, I say go ahead and replace that with the F100 24 Purolator Fuel Filter for around $4 dollars.



does autozone or napa sell these F100 24 Purolator Fuel Filters ?

[Seaking]

Take off the left and center cover behing the battery and you will see the fuel pump. Next to the fuel pump to its right (if I am not mistaken) is the fuel filter.

For you at 15K miles, I say go ahead and replace that with the F100 24 Purolator Fuel Filter for around $4 dollars.

FWIW, I change the fuel filter on my tractor every year no matter how much I use it. I plant to replace my Venture's fuel filter every year as well.

As one of those unlucky to discover his bike's previous owners never change fuel filters on his 2006 Midnight, I religiously change mine each year now. I had such a clogged filter last summer that it caused a lot of strange symptoms and most likely caused the premature failure of the fuel pump..

It's a nasty job to change it.. but not as nasty as what I went through last summer..!

Change your filter once a year.. at least change it at some time or another ;)

[Ruffy]

does autozone or napa sell these F100 24 Purolator Fuel Filters ?

Yep, its a regular auto filter. Any auto parts stores should carry it. Its slightly narrower that the stock Venture filter and it slips into the opening nicely. Makes future changes much easier. Ive been running this filter for 5 years now. No, not the same filter...I have changed it several times....:smile5:

[N3FOL]

does autozone or napa sell these F100 24 Purolator Fuel Filters ?

+1 on any major autoparts store that carry the Purolator brand. Advance Auto particularly carry Purolator filters.

I just received my fuel filter yesterday and is made of white plastic on the outside. Installation will be this Saturday and I should remember to follow that 'Arrow' direction on the fuel filter in relation to the flow of gasoline. :think:

[Seaking]

+1 on any major autoparts store that carry the Purolator brand. Advance Auto particularly carry Purolator filters.

I just received my fuel filter yesterday and is made of white plastic on the outside. Installation will be this Saturday and I should remember to follow that 'Arrow' direction on the fuel filter in relation to the flow of gasoline.

You mean it's not "This Side Up" arrow? lol.. just kidding!!

[Carbon_One]

Today I was in an O'Reilly's store and checked on the Purolator filter F100 24. They didn't have one in stock but did have a Wix 33027 which is the equivalent of the Purolator filter. I bought it since I need to change out mine as well.
It was tagged at the sum of $4
Larry
Later today after pulling the factory filter and comparing it to the 33027 Wix I decided to check on other filters available. I ended up getting a FF3330 (G478) ( $4) from Auto Zone. Although the Wix filter would do the job I liked this one due to the fact that I can still secure it the the frame just like the factory filter was. I reused the rubber attachment from the old filter and slipped it on the FF 3330 one.
Note: my bike has 34k on it and the stock filter still worked good thou I could tell it was begining to get restricted. Blowing by mouth thru it and comparing that to either of the new ones I could feel the restriction. Maybe 25% - 30% more restriction than a new filter.

[N3FOL]

You mean it's not "This Side Up" arrow? lol.. just kidding!!

I think the arrow should be pointing up...:big-grin-emoticon:.

[N3FOL]

Today I was in an O'Reilly's store and checked on the Purolator filter F100 24. They didn't have one in stock but did have a Wix 33027 which is the equivalent of the Purolator filter. I bought it since I need to change out mine as well.
It was tagged at the sum of $4
Larry
Later today after pulling the factory filter and comparing it to the 33027 Wix I decided to check on other filters available. I ended up getting a FF3330 (G478) ( $4) from Auto Zone. Although the Wix filter would do the job I liked this one due to the fact that I can still secure it the the frame just like the factory filter was. I reused the rubber attachment from the old filter and slipped it on the FF 3330 one.
Note: my bike has 34k on it and the stock filter still worked good thou I could tell it was begining to get restricted. Blowing by mouth thru it and comparing that to either of the new ones I could feel the restriction. Maybe 25% - 30% more restriction than a new filter.

Great info, Carbon One. Now we have a lot of choices now. Looks like we can have:
a) OEM Filter
b) Purolator F10024
c) Wix 33027
d) FF3330 (G478) - not sure of the brand you got (Purolator?)

I am now very curious on the FF3330 filter. After doing house chores today, it may be a good time to swing by my local Advance Auto. :thumbsup:

[Ruffy]

My reasons for choosing the F100 24 filter was that it was slightly narrower than the stock filter, thereby making it easier to replace in the future. Removing that filter from its holder was a real PIA. Now all I have to do is to pull up on the hose and access the clamps. The filter still sits within the rubber mount, just not secured by it.

[Carbon_One]

Great info, Carbon One. Now we have a lot of choices now. Looks like we can have:
a) OEM Filter
b) Purolator F10024
c) Wix 33027
d) FF3330 (G478) - not sure of the brand you got (Purolator?)

I am now very curious on the FF3330 filter. After doing house chores today, it may be a good time to swing by my local Advance Auto. :thumbsup:
The FF 3330 filter had the name Luber-Finer on the box. http://www.luberfiner.com/content/fuel-filters
The G478 printed on the paper insert leads me to believe it may be a name branded filter that it's compared to.
I just did a search on the G478 number. This filter is used on the Dodge Omni, Plymouth Horizon, Chevy S-10 ( 82-85 yrs), & some Chryslers. Not sure of the years for the Chrysler cars but it appears that this filter was widely used at one time.

[Leland]

Well thanks to this thread I decided to change mine (15,000+ miles) yesterday. Not too difficult and I do think it was time. The old one was rusty colored, maybe from the ethanol? Remove top hose clamp and pull filter out through bottom. What surprised me though, is that no fuel leaked out of the hoses. I do always shut the petcock and the bike hadn't been ridden for a few days, but I would have expected the lines to be full.

[N3FOL]

Glad to hear you have replaced your Fuel Filter with success, LeLand. You beat me to it. I had planned to replace my filter this weekend, but I ended up cutting the grass, pulling weeds, car wash, bike 'wipe' :thumbsup2:, and family errands. Next thing I know, it is already 8 pm Sunday night....I really need to get to it tonight for the weather is turning out to be nice for the next 5 days. :Venture: Safe.

[N3FOL]

Last night, I finally got the chance to change my fuel filter. It took me just under an hour after unbolting the cover, fuel pump, and that small black plastic that is to the left of the filter. What is that part called that is left of the fuel filter and a relay type looking piece just in front of the fuel filter?

As I was putting everything back together, I discovered that the bolt that fastens the white clamp as depicted on the picture has a bolt behind it...it was almost impossible for me to put it back together without dropping the back bolt so I decided to use a plastic plug to hold the clamp in place and I don't think it is going anywhere.

At the end, it took me longer to wipe around the hoses and parts...it sure is pretty dirty in there. As a preventative maintenance, I am thinking every 15K miles my fuel filter is going to be replaced.

[Sleeperhawk]

Last night, I finally got the chance to change my fuel filter. It took me just under an hour after unbolting the cover, fuel pump, and that small black plastic that is to the left of the filter. What is that part called that is left of the fuel filter and a relay type looking piece just in front of the fuel filter?

As I was putting everything back together, I discovered that the bolt that fastens the white clamp as depicted on the picture has a bolt behind it...it was almost impossible for me to put it back together without dropping the back bolt so I decided to use a plastic plug to hold the clamp in place and I don't think it is going anywhere.

At the end, it took me longer to wipe around the hoses and parts...it sure is pretty dirty in there. As a preventative maintenance, I am thinking every 15K miles my fuel filter is going to be replaced.

I never unbolted the fuel pump, so why are some of you doing this?
After the first time takes about 20 mins, have not done the relocation project yet.

[Kirby]

I never unbolted the fuel pump, so why are some of you doing this?
After the first time takes about 20 mins, have not done the relocation project yet.



I used the OEM filter and relocated mine up under the seat several months ago so I don't think I'll have too much of a problem changing it again when needed. I left the rubber around it to help absorb any kind of shock that might occur but I really don't think it's necessary. Shouldn't take more than 5 minutes to check or change from here on.

[Pegasus1300]

carbon one those are K Car filters and we"ve used them for years in the 1st gens.Guess Yamaha is still using the same filter.

[N3FOL]

I never unbolted the fuel pump, so why are some of you doing this?
After the first time takes about 20 mins, have not done the relocation project yet.

For just two 10mm bolts, I figure it is worth it to have more working space in as tight as the Venture. With the fuel pump out of the way, I can easily have one hand holding the hose and a pliers on the other hand. The next time I replace my filter, it may take me about half hour with no competition around me. :Cool_cool36: Good Luck on your relocation project and let us know how it went.

[N3FOL]

I used the OEM filter and relocated mine up under the seat several months ago so I don't think I'll have too much of a problem changing it again when needed. I left the rubber around it to help absorb any kind of shock that might occur but I really don't think it's necessary. Shouldn't take more than 5 minutes to check or change from here on.

Thanks for the pic. The relocation of the fuel filter is ok. Well done!

[N3FOL]

carbon one those are K Car filters and we"ve used them for years in the 1st gens.Guess Yamaha is still using the same filter.

That K Car, is that the Plymouth K Car or something else?

[casabroker]

Just bring the original into a parts store and make sure the diameter isn't to big and hose ends aren't to small. I even put the original rubber sleeve over it. works just fine for $2.47 it a fuel filter just like what a car would use.

[Bobby G]

New question:

I finally removed the old fuel filter to put the new one in - - and yes, it was a colossal PIA getting to it, but I finally got it figured out - - and as suggested in this and prior threads, I bought a new Purolator F10024 replacement filter. All I can say is that they don't even remotely resemble each other. Pics attached. The new filter (silver) is on the left.

The new one seems to be much larger in all respects, especially the openings on each end.

Any suggestions? Should I be overly concerned about their differences? This is the first fuel filter change-out I've done on this bike, and obviously it's WAY over due.

Thanks.

[Kregerdoodle]

interesting, I need to change mine, but will wait and see what kind of response you get, thanks for the pics



New question:

I finally removed the old fuel filter to put the new one in - - and yes, it was a colossal PIA getting to it, but I finally got it figured out - - and as suggested in this and prior threads, I bought a new Purolator F10024 replacement filter. All I can say is that they don't even remotely resemble each other. Pics attached. The new filter (silver) is on the left.

The new one seems to be much larger in all respects, especially the openings on each end.

Any suggestions? Should I be overly concerned about their differences? This is the first fuel filter change-out I've done on this bike, and obviously it's WAY over due.

Thanks.

[Bobby G]

OK, scratch that. I'm a dumba$$. That black thing is not the fuel filter. Apparently it's some kind of vacuum, as the hose connected to the bottom of it just dangles down through the bottom of the bike and is not connected to anything.

Back to square 1 trying to get the actual fuel filter out.

:(

[Kregerdoodle]

Sorry but had to smile at that!!! aint it fun??


OK, scratch that. I'm a dumba$$. That black thing is not the fuel filter. Apparently it's some kind of vacuum, as the hose connected to the bottom of it just dangles down through the bottom of the bike and is not connected to anything.

Back to square 1 trying to get the actual fuel filter out.

:(

[Bobby G]

No problem. I'm laughing at myself right now too. Man do I feel stupid sometimes. But I'm really operating in the dark here, and I just know I'm going to screw this thing up big time. I learn things visually, not by written instructions, so I wish there was a video of how to change this sucker out! Grrrrrrr......

[Kregerdoodle]

well I will be of no help as I have never done it...



No problem. I'm laughing at myself right now too. Man do I feel stupid sometimes. But I'm really operating in the dark here, and I just know I'm going to screw this thing up big time. I learn things visually, not by written instructions, so I wish there was a video of how to change this sucker out! Grrrrrrr......

[Bobby G]

Mission accomplished. When push comes to shove, start pulling everything out of the way until you can get to the sucker! Anyway, I got the old one out, and it had to be the original. It was brownish-yellow and had a rubber jacket on it so it would nest in the little cradle down there where I found it, and is twice the size of the replacement, which is now safely nestled up in the nest of hoses and rubber tubes at the base of the tank, so it can be accessed without taking anything but the seat off. After I got everything back together I fired it right up and ran it for a good 20 minutes, and it sounds smooth as glass on the throttle.

I agree with whoever said to re-route the tubing between the filter and the fuel pump to make it easier to access. But the devil is in the detail, and making sure all of the clamps are on tight and the filter is installed with the "flow" arrow pointing the right way is essential.

I'll be taking a nice ride this weekend to make sure everything works properly. Damn snow is showing up again tonight and tomorrow here in the ATL. I hate winter!

[Kregerdoodle]

Good Deal!!!


Mission accomplished. When push comes to shove, start pulling everything out of the way until you can get to the sucker! Anyway, I got the old one out, and it had to be the original. It was brownish-yellow and had a rubber jacket on it so it would nest in the little cradle down there where I found it, and is twice the size of the replacement, which is now safely nestled up in the nest of hoses and rubber tubes at the base of the tank, so it can be accessed without taking anything but the seat off. After I got everything back together I fired it right up and ran it for a good 20 minutes, and it sounds smooth as glass on the throttle.

I agree with whoever said to re-route the tubing between the filter and the fuel pump to make it easier to access. But the devil is in the detail, and making sure all of the clamps are on tight and the filter is installed with the "flow" arrow pointing the right way is essential.

I'll be taking a nice ride this weekend to make sure everything works properly. Damn snow is showing up again tonight and tomorrow here in the ATL. I hate winter!

[1joeranger]

I was gonna tell ya to come up here to Chattanooga and we could knock it out! But you got to it already. Left work tonight to find about an inch of that white stuff on my bike. Thankfully the roads were not iced, yet!

[Bobby G]

I was gonna tell ya to come up here to Chattanooga and we could knock it out! But you got to it already. Left work tonight to find about an inch of that white stuff on my bike. Thankfully the roads were not iced, yet!

Getting ready to start with the white flaky stuff here in Marietta too. Gonna be a fast mover though, and it should be a distant memory by mid-afternoon. Thanks for the offer. I'm sure the first time I make it to a M&E Maintenance Day around her, some of the guys will get a pretty good laugh at how I put the whole shabang back together under the seat! :rotf:

[1joeranger]

I have the filter directly under the seat now for the past 6 months and it works fine! ENJOY and forget about the goof!!

[N3FOL]

Mission accomplished.

I'll be taking a nice ride this weekend to make sure everything works properly. Damn snow is showing up again tonight and tomorrow here in the ATL. I hate winter!

Glad to hear all went well. Great job.

I am also planning to fire up the bike tomorrow and commute to work. Need to do safety checks first - since the bike has been sitting for a month now.

It is finally starting to warm up especially this coming weekend.

Ride Safe.

[jfoster]

Using ya's suggestions I replaced mine today and surprisingly found it fairly easy to remove. For what it's worth to anyone that hasn't done it, I proceeded as the previous post suggested. I didn't have to remove the center cover, just unbolted it to move it out a bit. Once the fuel pump was taken loose (most do) I worked my fingers around the filter and slid it off the two flat posts that hold it secure, pulling it from the left side of the bike. Once off the posts, I pulled it straight out the top, where I disconnected the fuel lines (plenty of slack n fuel line). After installing the new filter, I slide it down into its original position. As another posted, there are two filters in there side by side. The fuel filter is the white plastic filter (right side of the two). The flow direction or out is down. I installed the fs3330 from auto zone, it ran like a top afterwards.

[N3FOL]

jfoster, who is the Manufacturer of the FS3330?

Curious, I may get one for stock.

[jfoster]

Luberfiner by champion labs

[Condor]

The cheapest shipping option is $12.00 for UPS ground. Pretty typical. To me, these type products are usually cheaper at your local dealer if you have one close by. I can buy the filter for about $12.00 including tax from my local dealer as opposed to ordering it online for a total, including shipping, of about $21.00.

Been doing that a lot lately on the cheaper items. Doesn't make sense to order online and pay those 'creative writing' shipping fees...

[warrior/honeybee]

i also have read somewhere on here that some pepole move the fuel filter for easier acsess.

[SilvrT]

I've added some pics of the removal process of the stock filter here...

http://venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=56823

[DanC]

I have almost 13K miles on the bike. In the not so distant future, I plan to replace my fule filter since it is cheap preventative maintenance for my bike. I've read about the NAPA 3011 fuel fitler, but not sure if this if for a 1st Gen or 2nd Gen. At any rate, I may opt for an OEM type filter or go for a 'car' fuel filter.

What do you guys recommend and the best place to order online?
See my post "Inline Filter" 2/20/2011. DanC It might help you. Go to the nearest Napa and save shipping and get it immediately, :cool10:

[Seaking]

The answer is there somewhere but I'm half blind with exhaustion tonight, could someone help me out with this one?

After seeing the photos of the fuel filter under the seat which makes it so EASY to change, that would mean having to lengthen the hose from the pump up to the new location.. Do you purchase an off the shelf hose then and cut the existing one to where you want the new location of the filter to be? Or simply cut the hose under the seat area, put the filter there and move the hose down to the pump? Not sure how that would work, seeing how the hose bottom of the filter is bent and all.. ?

Slightly confused how this works..

Oddly enough, does the filter performance change if it's laying on it's side than upright?

[DanC]

Is anyone using fuel filters with replaceable elements? (ie replaceable internal filters)
YES, see my post on 2/21/2011, "INLINE FILTER" Hope that it helps. DanC:cool10:

[Bobby G]

The answer is there somewhere but I'm half blind with exhaustion tonight, could someone help me out with this one?

After seeing the photos of the fuel filter under the seat which makes it so EASY to change, that would mean having to lengthen the hose from the pump up to the new location.. Do you purchase an off the shelf hose then and cut the existing one to where you want the new location of the filter to be? Or simply cut the hose under the seat area, put the filter there and move the hose down to the pump? Not sure how that would work, seeing how the hose bottom of the filter is bent and all.. ?

Slightly confused how this works..

Oddly enough, does the filter performance change if it's laying on it's side than upright?

After changing out my fuel filter last week, I repositioned it so that it sits comfortably up under the seat in front of the battery box, nestled in with the myriad of other hoses and tubes that occupy that space. There was plenty of slack in the bottom hose that runs between it and the fuel pump to do this. It is not in a straight up-and-down vertical position as it was in its original position, but it's not laying horizontally either. More at a 45 degree angle now. I've put about 1,000 miles on it since the change out, and no issues whatsoever. Where it is now, I can get to it for future replacement and only have to remove the seat.

[SilvrT]

The answer is there somewhere but I'm half blind with exhaustion tonight, could someone help me out with this one?

After seeing the photos of the fuel filter under the seat which makes it so EASY to change, that would mean having to lengthen the hose from the pump up to the new location.. Do you purchase an off the shelf hose then and cut the existing one to where you want the new location of the filter to be? Or simply cut the hose under the seat area, put the filter there and move the hose down to the pump? Not sure how that would work, seeing how the hose bottom of the filter is bent and all.. ?

Slightly confused how this works..

Oddly enough, does the filter performance change if it's laying on it's side than upright?

I haven't done mine yet but plan to. I got a length of neoprene gas line hose and will just route that from the new filter position to the fuel pump. Can even use the existing clamps plus one extra.

[Sylvester]

Because you all convinced me to change my fuel filter with this thread, I did so. Now after finding out that there was nothing wrong with the existing filter (no restriction for air flow), there is no clicking on the fuel pump and the bike will not turn over. Main fuse is OK and the ingnition fuse is OK, now where do I go?

:farmer:

[Condor]

Because you all convinced me to change my fuel filter with this thread, I did so. Now after finding out that there was nothing wrong with the existing filter (no restriction for air flow), there is no clicking on the fuel pump and the bike will not turn over. Main fuse is OK and the ingnition fuse is OK, now where do I go?



You might see if your emergency shut off switch is in the run position, and maybe check the ignition switch to see if the thing is plugged in...??? Just a thought....

[SilvrT]

Because you all convinced me to change my fuel filter with this thread, I did so. Now after finding out that there was nothing wrong with the existing filter (no restriction for air flow), there is no clicking on the fuel pump and the bike will not turn over. Main fuse is OK and the ingnition fuse is OK, now where do I go?

:farmer:

Did you inadvertently disconnect the fuel pump electrical?

Ya, as Condor mentioned... check your kill switch .... that lil sukka has fooled many of us... LOL

[Sylvester]

I am soooo embarresed, it was the emergency switch and I had it running before the work started I must have hit it. I thank you so much Condor and SilverT. I was having a senior moment and was about to go ballistic. Started up fine and all is good. Unless my mechanic changed the fuel filter a year and a half ago, then this is the original. I put in the Purolator F100024. Last week I replaced the thermostat, hoses, o-rings and radiator cap. BTW my bike has 135,000 miles. I want to make sure that I can ride another ten years on Sylvester. In April I will put another 5K on him.

:farmer:

[SilvrT]

I am soooo embarresed, it was the emergency switch and I had it running before the work started I must have hit it. I thank you so much Condor and SilverT. I was having a senior moment and was about to go ballistic. Started up fine and all is good. Unless my mechanic changed the fuel filter a year and a half ago, then this is the original. I put in the Purolator F100024. Last week I replaced the thermostat, hoses, o-rings and radiator cap. BTW my bike has 135,000 miles. I want to make sure that I can ride another ten years on Sylvester. In April I will put another 5K on him.

:farmer:


heh... you're now part of a VERY LARGE CLUB.... LOL

glad that's all it was!

[Seaking]

After changing out my fuel filter last week, I repositioned it so that it sits comfortably up under the seat in front of the battery box, nestled in with the myriad of other hoses and tubes that occupy that space. There was plenty of slack in the bottom hose that runs between it and the fuel pump to do this. It is not in a straight up-and-down vertical position as it was in its original position, but it's not laying horizontally either. More at a 45 degree angle now. I've put about 1,000 miles on it since the change out, and no issues whatsoever. Where it is now, I can get to it for future replacement and only have to remove the seat.

Thanks for the response (Silvt as well).. funny enough, after I posted my query about the filter positioning, I had gone out to do maintenance on my VStar and behold, it's the exact same fuel filter under the seat, mounted horizontally.. well how about that, totally forgot about that.. so yeah, there ought not be any probs mounting it under the RSV seat either.

I'll give it a pull and a tug when I go to do the fuel filter on the RSV and see if I can relocate it up higher under the seat as you have, might give it a fuel proof neoprene wrap or two to keep it from knocking.. If the fuel filter is easy to access then changing it the once a year now becomes even that much easier..

Thanks again to all.

[Bobby G]

Thanks for the response (Silvt as well).. funny enough, after I posted my query about the filter positioning, I had gone out to do maintenance on my VStar and behold, it's the exact same fuel filter under the seat, mounted horizontally.. well how about that, totally forgot about that.. so yeah, there ought not be any probs mounting it under the RSV seat either.

I'll give it a pull and a tug when I go to do the fuel filter on the RSV and see if I can relocate it up higher under the seat as you have, might give it a fuel proof neoprene wrap or two to keep it from knocking.. If the fuel filter is easy to access then changing it the once a year now becomes even that much easier..

Thanks again to all.

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[Hotrod]

How do you reset the emergency kill switch if it is bumped during filter installation? Do you just switch the ignition off and back on to reset or is their a reset switch some where else? Thanks

[Sylvester]

The red switch on the left side throttle assembly. Now I know to check it first!:doh:

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[Seaking]

How do you reset the emergency kill switch if it is bumped during filter installation? Do you just switch the ignition off and back on to reset or is their a reset switch some where else? Thanks

If I am not mistaken, its JUST a matter of putting the Emergency Kill Switch (red switch) back to the "run / on" position.. that's all... to close the circuit again.. simple as that..

Unless I am mistaken.. but something tells me I might not be.. regardless what my missus says.. I'm sometimes right.. not often but sometimes.. yes.

I'll be doing my filter today (cold heavy rain warnings today.. then ice and snow..)

[XV1100SE]

The red switch on the left side throttle assembly. Now I know to check it first!:doh:

Its on the right handle grip to the left of the cruise control settings, above and to the left of the start button.

[OutKast]

My 04 had 14k on it when I bought it, and now has 57k. I never have changed the fuel filter. Is it time?

[Seaking]

My 04 had 14k on it when I bought it, and now has 57k. I never have changed the fuel filter. Is it time?

HUGELY so my friend!! I change mine every year as part of the winter maintenance.. Mind you, I put over 30,000 miles on my bike the past two summers.. ;)

Though it IS a pain in the assets to access, it will save you huge in the long run.. if it starts getting clogged, the fuel pump has to work that much harder to suck fuel through it, then causing the pump to fail prematurely.. which was the case for me..

I bought my bike used with 20,000 miles on it.. 2 yrs old.. no one had previously changed the filter.. I started having fuel starvation problems when the fuel in the tank got below a certain level (above the RES level).. the filter was clogged badly enough that it required the head pressure of a full tank to assist the pump in getting fuel.. after a lower level it couldn't cope and the bike starved of fuel.. A few months later, the fuel pump packed it in..

Change the filter.. they aren't expensive.. but hard to access.. Follow the thread how to get to it..

[Seaking]

Well I did my plugs and changed the fuel filter today, and tried the new location people mentioned in this thread.. and well it was easier than I thought..

I kept the sleeve around the new filter (pink!) and tossed the old filter (black!) out, I placed the filter where the photos showed it. The lower hose needs to be snaked and turned around a bit for proper routing that won't allow any accidental pinching or crushing from the other lines in there.. But it does reach from the pump up to the new location.. I haven't cut the inlet hose, but looped it large around and under the frame brace in case I wanted to return the filter to it's original position.. again, making sure no kinks or crushing will occur.. Impeding the flow of fuel is not a good thing..

Did you guys CUT the inlet hose to length?

So now, its gonna be a lot easier to change that frikken filter!! As you can see from the photo, the filter needs to be changed more than just once a year, seeing how many miles I'm actually putting on the bike.. erk!

Plugs are all the same colour, not sooty, little darker than light tan.. but look uniform..

Cheers

[krispy]

Well thanks to this thread I decided to change mine (15,000+ miles) yesterday. Not too difficult and I do think it was time. The old one was rusty colored, maybe from the ethanol? Remove top hose clamp and pull filter out through bottom. What surprised me though, is that no fuel leaked out of the hoses. I do always shut the petcock and the bike hadn't been ridden for a few days, but I would have expected the lines to be full.

Guys, this is the post that made this job a relatively simple one. I had tried everythig to get that filter out of there, finally came back in to re-read this thread. Went thru the whole thing, then went back to find this one post that said it wasn't too difficult. Everybody else, including me, seemed to have a real fight out of it. He's right. Take the top clamp and hose off, and push the filter DOWN. With the 2 bolts out of the fuel pump, I could get the filter out far enough to get the hose off the bottom, and out she comes!! I'm still going to relocate the filter to just under the seat to make it easier the NEXT time I change it, but Leland hit on the best way to change it the FIRST time anyway. I did have the middle cover loose on the left side of the bike, and the center screw on that cover out. It gave me a little more room to work, but I'm not sure it was necessary. Thanks Leland, and good luck to everybody else who tries this service themselves.