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massey130
03-23-2010, 05:12 PM
went to prep the bike to trailer to maint day in Tomball, Tx and what did i find? green fluid on the clutch cover and an open hole on the valve jug.

tell me if i have guessed correctly and a freeze plug has blown out. the green stuff is anti freez (that didn't work).
then i guess i will need a freeze plug. how do you install a new one?

I don't know what is going on with my bike, but if all "junk" comes in three's, then i should be clear by now.

1 rear tire flat - new one bought and installed
2 clutch shifter problem - in process
3 freeze plug - in learning curve.

thanks

massey130
03-23-2010, 05:29 PM
I am heading back out in the shop and at least plug the hole to stop it dripping.
I will check this thread later.

Pecker
03-23-2010, 05:35 PM
The open hole you have there is plugged by a rubber plug (look on the other jug of that side). Not sure if that is considered a freeze plug or not, I assume it is. Anyhow, purchase a new one (or find the one that fell out) and it just pops right in by hand. If it just fell out, I would buy a new one, shouldn't be too expensive.


Dave

frogmaster
03-23-2010, 05:52 PM
Freeze Plug in LA>>>>

Hmmmm you would think that most of us living above the 44th Parallel would have seen this more often than not but we have not. Hope someone can clarify this or have better terminology than "Freeze Plug". I will be watching this (very curious) :icon_smile_question

dingy
03-23-2010, 06:09 PM
Part fiche calls it "PLUG,SPEC'L SHAPE".

It's $4.30 from Partshark.com

It's on the crankcase page, item #9.

Gary

Kregerdoodle
03-23-2010, 07:10 PM
The open hole you have there is plugged by a rubber plug (look on the other jug of that side). Not sure if that is considered a freeze plug or not, I assume it is. Anyhow, purchase a new one (or find the one that fell out) and it just pops right in by hand. If it just fell out, I would buy a new one, shouldn't be too expensive.


Dave


And the fins hold it in place...I would look around where you put the fins when you took them off...

Squidley
03-23-2010, 08:08 PM
And the fins hold it in place...I would look around where you put the fins when you took them off...


:sign yeah that: easy fix if you did loose it, and I'll bet it's on the fin.

Dano
03-23-2010, 08:12 PM
Not called a "freeze plug", but rather the drain for the heads if you ever have to take one off.

friesman1
03-23-2010, 08:17 PM
Not called a "freeze plug", but rather the drain for the heads if you ever have to take one off.

Ok if you say so, but up here everything that holds antifreeze back is called a frost plug.........:smile5:

Brian

BradT
03-23-2010, 10:57 PM
Ok if you say so, but up here everything that holds antifreeze back is called a frost plug.........:smile5:

Brian

And I figured Vern lived far enough North to understand :think:

Brad

wes0778
03-23-2010, 11:03 PM
Dale, What's Archie Campbell say? If it weren't for bad luck I'd have no luck at all!!! :Avatars_Gee_George:

That's all about to change when you meet the "Texas Bunch", especially if Gunboat brings his HAMMER!!! :Bunny2:

massey130
03-24-2010, 12:14 AM
well, well, an anti freeze cylinder drain plug that comes out with the fins. and i have the fins but not plug. i will have to look around the shop floor. i have swept once, but don't remember seeing something like that. i will check the trash can. i will presume it looks like its cylinder mates anti freeze cylinder drain plug that isn't a "freeze" prevention plug.

i can't order one as i need it for coming saturday. i hope the yammy shop has one.

Lake Charles has all the major automotive parts reseller stores, could it be a stock item in one of those?

massey130
03-24-2010, 01:06 AM
looked in the trash, looked on the bike and looked around the shop floor. looked on the fin. looked on the other fin too, could not find it.

I did find a tire valve cap i lost a few months back.

i will have to get one through the yammy shop.

If they don't have it, i will see if one of you attending the Tomball, Tx maint day has a yammy shop with one.

this feels like one of those never ending sagas of one thing leads to another.

i have had my challenges lately and i really, really have had enough.

LilBeaver
03-24-2010, 01:39 AM
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i can't order one as i need it for coming saturday. i hope the yammy shop has one.

Lake Charles has all the major automotive parts reseller stores, could it be a stock item in one of those?

My guess is that you will not be able to find it at an autoparts store since it isn't really a 'standard' plug of any sort.

A good Yamaha dealer ought to be able to get one to you next day or a 3-5 days out (max) IF they don't have one in stock. So, if I were you I'd be on the horn first thing tomorrow morning (if not go into your local shop) and see what you can do locally. If not, give a call to a shop that will be in the area of the M.D. and maybe someone can pick it up for you (if you don't go by yourself).

Good luck!!

Ponch
03-24-2010, 09:41 AM
Dale, I'll call the local stealer and if he has one I'll get it.

SteveW
03-24-2010, 09:47 AM
Its black and hard to see. Looks real good between the exhaust and the frame under where the plug goes. It could be hiding there. BTW never start up your bike with the fins off It will pop a plug out in a heartbeat.

Ponch
03-24-2010, 02:59 PM
Sorry, They don't have the plug. Said it would be here in a week unless I wanted to order it "next day air".

massey130
03-24-2010, 03:26 PM
I called the lake charles yammy place & they said it wouldn't be here till next week. i told him i needed it for saturday. he said to call the DeRidder yammy place. they were just placing their order and said they felt soooo very confident their stuff will be here friday. i said i will gamble with that, so i plunked down my hard plastic and ordered it. we will see.

if all else fails, i can just take the one off another cylinder and ......:lightbulb:

i will go with what i got. i am only one man, part human and part animal.
If I have to, i will make a gasket from sheet gasket and permatex and fashion a freeze drain plug from some rubber blank stock.

remmertb
03-24-2010, 03:30 PM
Lowes or an auto parts store probably has some type of rubber plug that will cork it well enough to get you on the road until your part comes in from the dealer. Put a little permatex ultra blue on it, and cork it up. The fins will keep it in place. If it doesn't leak-it's fixed. Repair can probably be seen on an old MacGuyver episode using a booger and a piece of shoelace.

massey130
03-24-2010, 03:34 PM
Its black and hard to see. Looks real good between the exhaust and the frame under where the plug goes. It could be hiding there. BTW never start up your bike with the fins off It will pop a plug out in a heartbeat.
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I went to the shop last night and did a look see. i did not have that nice noon time sunshine light, so i may have missed it on the bike. i went thru the trash can and scourered the floor to no avail. I did have to walk the bike out of the shop, turn it around and back in so it is facing out so i can load it up on the trailer. the drain plug may have fallen on the drive way. that will be a circus as we have that loose ground up asphalt stuff and a black rubber plug will blend right in. i will take a gander though. if found, i will have a spare.

the starting up with no fins is good info. kind of like watching out for the plugs when removing the fins.

Squidley
03-24-2010, 04:19 PM
Dale,

If you dont get one no worries, we'll take one off my '99 which is at Kregs house :thumbsup2:

Kregerdoodle
03-24-2010, 04:26 PM
I allready have them off Squid!! Don`t ask....:rasberry:


Dale,

If you dont get one no worries, we'll take one off my '99 which is at Kregs house :thumbsup2:

gunboat
03-24-2010, 04:35 PM
dale don't let wes scare you about the "hammer". i have a 10# sleage with a 1 foot handle, that i can lay my hands on. but i also have a 20# slege with a 36" handle all ready to go, for the new meat that shows up at mx day. looking forward to finaly meet you.
reguards
don c. :big-grin-emoticon:

jburrell
03-24-2010, 04:38 PM
well, well, an anti freeze cylinder drain plug that comes out with the fins. and i have the fins but not plug. i will have to look around the shop floor. i have swept once, but don't remember seeing something like that. i will check the trash can. i will presume it looks like its cylinder mates anti freeze cylinder drain plug that isn't a "freeze" prevention plug.

i can't order one as i need it for coming saturday. i hope the yammy shop has one.

Lake Charles has all the major automotive parts reseller stores, could it be a stock item in one of those?

Massey,
I have 3 of these in my toolbox if you need one you are welcome to it. I had an issue with mine and I wend ahead and changed all of them.

james

Squidley
03-24-2010, 06:21 PM
Looks like your problem is solves Dale :)

Kregerdoodle
03-24-2010, 06:25 PM
ok, I`ll put them back....:smile5:

What a great ride home today!! Man I love that liquid sunshine!!!


Looks like your problem is solves Dale :)

massey130
03-24-2010, 06:28 PM
Man, O man. i am glad to see i am not the only one with a freeze plug problem in the South. it is nice to mark that one off the list. i do have one ordered and the parts lady "promised" it would be in on Friday. either way, that one is covered.

I really hate it when things come down to the wire like this. and to boot Debbie is flying out Thursday morn at 6 AM which means up at 3:30!! she will be helping me tonight to trailer up the bike instead of tomorrow.

thanks, guys.

i was told not to bring tools, but i do have a special hammer ???

Kregerdoodle
03-24-2010, 06:33 PM
We should have the tools handled....be carefull and I look forward to meeting you on Sat!!

** Note to Squidly** I DO NOT HAVE A CARB SYNC. TOOL....


Man, O man. i am glad to see i am not the only one with a freeze plug problem in the South. it is nice to mark that one off the list. i do have one ordered and the parts lady "promised" it would be in on Friday. either way, that one is covered.

I really hate it when things come down to the wire like this. and to boot Debbie is flying out Thursday morn at 6 AM which means up at 3:30!! she will be helping me tonight to trailer up the bike instead of tomorrow.

thanks, guys.

i was told not to bring tools, but i do have a special hammer ???

massey130
03-24-2010, 07:00 PM
dale don't let wes scare you about the "hammer". i have a 10# sleage with a 1 foot handle, that i can lay my hands on. but i also have a 20# slege with a 36" handle all ready to go, for the new meat that shows up at mx day. looking forward to finaly meet you.
reguards
don c. :big-grin-emoticon:
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i have an 8 # on a 3 foot handle. i am surprised how much i use it.
that is my special hammer.
Deb knows to move when i walk up with it and that special "i am gonna fix this" look in my eye.

Marcarl
03-24-2010, 07:57 PM
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Deb knows to move when i walk up with it and that special "i am gonna fix this" look in my eye.
Marca knows what happens when I fire up old Brutus,,,,, 16" Holiday\Pioneer chain saw. She runs and hides everything that is precious to her, and then runs for cover.

Squidley
03-24-2010, 08:37 PM
What a great ride home today!! Man I love that liquid sunshine!!!

I only got a few raindrops, not even enough to get wet really :rasberry:


** Note to Squidly** I DO NOT HAVE A CARB SYNC. TOOL....

Yeah, I got that one covered too, just make sure you have some beast OK!