View Full Version : Need help...To Trike or not to Trike? That is the question.
Aimhigh
04-29-2009, 10:42 AM
There has been a lot of talk about trikes and trike conversions. I am seriously considering going the trike route...only thing is that I don't know if it will be better to convert my 07 RSV (and, if so, using what system?) or to sell my bike and just purchase a trike (again, which manufacturer?) Sure would appreciate any help you all have.
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tx2sturgis
04-29-2009, 10:51 AM
Wow. The reasons for triking are so varied, its gonna be hard to answer you. You should tell us what kind of riding you do, what are your reasons for triking, do you trailer, ride 2 up or solo, touring needs, and of course, your budget and expectations...etc.
Cougar may well have some feedback for you on his experiences, but most riders who convert the RSV are happy with the results. A bit lighter in the wallet, perhaps, but happy nonetheless.
Aimhigh
04-29-2009, 11:01 AM
Wow. The reasons for triking are so varied, its gonna be hard to answer you. You should tell us what kind of riding you do, what are your reasons for triking, do you trailer, ride 2 up or solo, touring needs, and of course, your budget and expectations...etc.
Cougar may well have some feedback for you on his experiences, but most riders who convert the RSV are happy with the results. A bit lighter in the wallet, perhaps, but happy nonetheless.
Thanks for the reply. We usually ride two up and I am considering pulling a trailer...don't do so right now...but I think a trike would make longer trips easier... and, thusly, more likely. Two-up we take day trips...solo I have ridden to Illinois and back (enjoyed it, too). Regarding budget...I looked at, and would seriously consider, the Hannigan conversion...priced it at approx $14k, but would still consider it...gritting my teeth, of course! Expectations are that the ride would still feel like a motorcycle ride...this is a MUST! At 63yrs and being a smaller person (5'7", 170lbs) the RSV is just too top-heavy, to be comfortable, especially when the navigator is aboard.
georgew48
04-29-2009, 11:08 AM
I just had my 2006 RSTD triked using the Hannigan kit and couldn't be happier. My reason was for health, bad shoulders, but I love the way it handles and rides. There are numerous kits out there so you will have to decide which one fits you best. I can only comment on the Hannigan conversion and I can tell you that it is first class. It will cost you a little more than some of the other kits though. I went with Hannigan because of the supension, the quality of the components and the looks. All of the supension and drive components except for the differential are from the Honda CRX sports car. The differential is from a ford thunderbird. It has braided stainless steel brake lines and michielen tires. The fiberglass is very thick and blends well with the lines of the Venture/RSTD. I have people tell me that it looks like it was factory built by Yamaha. Which ever way you go I think you will be happy to be on three wheels. I find I am much more relaxed now and can ride all day with no fatigue. Good luck with your decision.
Aimhigh
04-29-2009, 11:16 AM
I just had my 2006 RSTD triked using the Hannigan kit and couldn't be happier. My reason was for health, bad shoulders, but I love the way it handles and rides. There are numerous kits out there so you will have to decide which one fits you best. I can only comment on the Hannigan conversion and I can tell you that it is first class. It will cost you a little more than some of the other kits though. I went with Hannigan because of the supension, the quality of the components and the looks. All of the supension and drive components except for the differential are from the Honda CRX sports car. The differential is from a ford thunderbird. It has braided stainless steel brake lines and michielen tires. The fiberglass is very thick and blends well with the lines of the Venture/RSTD. I have people tell me that it looks like it was factory built by Yamaha. Which ever way you go I think you will be happy to be on three wheels. I find I am much more relaxed now and can ride all day with no fatigue. Good luck with your decision.
So far, if I were to do the conversion, it would be the Hannigan...I am very glad to hear that the ride is still enjoyable. Thanks for the input.
:thumbsup2:
Jim T
tx2sturgis
04-29-2009, 11:20 AM
Yep...you are the target demographic for trikes. I say GO for it, you'll have a blast, assuming it doesnt put you in a financial crunch.
At least two of the 'issues' with the Royal Stars will be solved by triking it. Rear drive hub issues and top heavy slow speed handling issues. And assuming you arent in a wheelchair, you wont even need to worry about a reverse gear on a trike. The can be pushed SO easily, since you dont have to balance them. If you can push a loaded shopping cart thru a grocery store, you can push a trike.
When its complete, you will fall in love with the 'bike' all over again. I have ridden many brands of trikes, and from experience, I can say that they are a blast to ride, and once on the open road, they feel much like what you are used to. Its when you get into traffic and stops and starts, that you will find a trike is a wonderful vehicle to be riding. Trikes easily pull a trailer, as long as you dont go overboard on your trailer weight. They DO require more 'elbow grease' when turning, but you will get used to this. A trike can be turned lock to lock(parking lot speeds), without fear of tipping over. All trikes have what is called 'headshake'...this is normal and generally only occurs at one particular speed, usually when decelerating. You get used to this too, its not scary, but its there. And a skilled trike rider can easily outcorner the average 2 wheel rider, especially at 'around town' speeds.
Good luck on your journey.
GunnyButch
04-29-2009, 08:47 PM
I had mine done last december at the Hannigan plant in Ky. I love it and highly recommend it. Cougar got his back a few weeks ago. Let us know if you need any information.
Blackjack
04-29-2009, 09:11 PM
This is a pretty big can of worms...
If you go ahead and trike the bike you have you will likely have put much more into it than you could possibly get back, so there's the likelihood of a significant economic loss, somewhere down the line. That loss would be especially hard to swallow if you found that you did not like the ride of a trike, after all!
Personally, if I were still physically able, and wanted to continue to ride on two wheels, but I wanted the long-distance and two-up advantages of a trike, I would seriously consider the MTC Voyager conversion kit: http://www.mtcvoyager.com/
I've seen this unit on a couple of different bikes and it's quite impressive. It's way less expensive, and does not compromise, in any way, your bike or its' value. It also allows you to ride on two wheels whenever you want in a matter of minutes. Plus, the kit, should you not like the "trike" ride would still be sellable, minimizing your potential for economic loss.
I hope that whatever you decide to do works out well for you...
TERRY
craigatcsi
04-29-2009, 09:14 PM
I am also considering a trike kit, due to health reasons.
But, since they don't lean like a bike does, wouldn't an old CJ7 with the top and doors off give me the same feeling? Also, MUCH cheaper.
Honestly, I am NOT trying to be a smart A$$!
I just wonder if I would like the trike since it doesn't lean.
craigr
papa smurf
04-29-2009, 09:21 PM
regarding the voyager kit, i'm a bit skiddish of them. I also am looking at a trike by some means in the near future. I have a real new RSV and a not so new body if you know what i mean.
I had a friend who had a pretty bad accident after getting a voyager kit. She was a new rider, and that could have been part of it... i just dont know. I just know that if i ever get on a trike with my loved one, it won't be something I put together myself. It will be a conversion by a company that does it day in and day out.
Sorry for the incomplete, yet long story... It still bugs me.
tx2sturgis
04-29-2009, 10:11 PM
The Voyager kit has its place. But its never meant to be a substitute for a trike.
If you have a situation that keeps you from riding on 2 wheels temporarily, such as an injury, or maybe snow and ice in your area during winter, then the Voyager kit is an option. But the handling is bad, taking corners is weird, and you can 'high center' your drive wheel in certain situations. Plus, they arent good at pulling trailers, they add no luggage capacity, and well, to me, they are just plain ugly, not to mention the comments you will get about having 'training wheels' on your scoot.
To me, the Voyager is NOT a substitute for a trike. Period.
Condor
04-29-2009, 10:42 PM
Here's another alternative....
http://www.motortrike.com/
BuddyRich
04-29-2009, 11:27 PM
I heard that Jim, with Jude on its all I can do to maintain a level position at a stop light. I'd compare the costs and power then decide. You adding a lot of weight with the trike kit. Then there's the warranty issue on a self conversion.
Ky. Rider
04-29-2009, 11:35 PM
Don't get me wrong, I like my RSV to the point I'm not looking to trade but if/or when I go to a trike I'll go with a Goldwing because of reverse and the cc's. No plans to go to a trike but time changes things.
Rottdoglover
04-29-2009, 11:35 PM
If you're thinking trike, I suggest try riding one as much as possible and over as many different type roads as you can. I find a high crowned country road is not ideal for triking on. And a good option (almost neccesity) is EZ steer. Without it is like a driving a manual steered car VS power steering.
Aimhigh
04-29-2009, 11:45 PM
any pictures of a yamaha with the hannigan conversion?
georgew48
04-30-2009, 08:38 AM
I have posted pictures of mine and so has Cougar as well as Gunny Butch. Just look under the trike section on the forum. The Hannigan web site also has pictures of a Venture with the hannigan kit.
BigBoyinMS
04-30-2009, 03:44 PM
I have always liked trikes and would love to have one. I wouldn't mind a Venture trike but for me this is almost the perfect trike... www.cheetahtrikes.com And no worry about power or if you are putting too much weight in the trailer.
tx2sturgis
04-30-2009, 04:28 PM
This opens a whole can of worms, so to speak. If I was starting from scratch, and looking to BUY a new trike, I much prefer the frame up trikes, not a conversion. But, If I already owned a bike that was capable of being made into a nice trike, I'd have no issues with having a quality trike conversion done.
That Cheetah trike looks fast, and sporty, but also, kindve garage made. One of the problems with tiller steered trikes, which is what that one is, is the strange steering geometry when turning at low speeds and while backing...plus the mirrors, if mounted on the bars, become useless during most turns.
None of these 'toys' are cheap, but if you want to look at a premium trike, take a look at these:
http://www.lvtrikes.com/
When I saw these Las Vegas Trikes at Sturgis a few years ago,I nearly croaked at the prices. The top of the line Widowmaker goes for between $75,000 and $100,000, depending on options, or did a few years ago.
But even If I had the money, I just dont care for tiller steered trikes. Too much like a boat/wagon arrangement of control.
One of my favorite Trikes, and one that I very nearly purchased a few years back is the RoadHawk line of trikes. Heres a good example:
http://images.traderonline.com//img/5/dealer/1507207/94303011_1thumb_550x410.jpg
http://www.cycletrader.com/find/listing/2002-TRIKE-SHOP-VCYCLE-ROADHAWK-94303011
These trikes are available with an upgraded motor, and they dont use tiller steering. They have pivoting handlebars like a normal bike does, that dont swing from side to side, but rotate left and right. Yes, these use a remanufactured VW style flat 4 motor, and are air cooled, and simple to work on. The motor and all the noise and heat are behind you. I was in heaven riding this thing!
They sit low, handle EXTREMELY well, and have a very comfortable riding position, just like sitting in your favorite easy chair. They have full instrumentation, a large gas tank, fairing mounted mirrors, full stereo, leg fairings, lots of luggage capacity, and can easily carry a spare front wheel and tire in the rear rack. They can pull a decent sized little trailer, and they are fast, when you get the upgraded 150hp motor, get decent fuel mileage, and are available with an automatic. They cost from $20,000 to about $35,000 fully optioned, when new. These trikes are suitable for long distance touring, or just cruising around town.
I NEVER rode anything that handled better or was more comfortable to ride.
The main reason I didnt buy it? As extremely long as they are, it would take up nearly my whole damn garage!!!
And I'm NOT parkin my other bikes outside. Nuff said.
Aussie Annie
05-01-2009, 12:27 AM
Listen Fella's,
The only trike conversion available to me here in Oz is the Voyager--and some of your comments are making me a little squeamish. :stirthepot: I NEED to keep riding (or go insane):rasberry: Over here all the trikes made are low slung things with VW motors in them. Unfortunately for me, and my bung leg, I can't get on and off. Check out this site: www.oztrikes.com.au (http://www.oztrikes.com.au) The owner and designer is actually a guy in a wheelchair!! I like the idea of not having to change "big blue" from original too, and that the kit bolts on and off and is re-useable on other bikes (keeps value of bike and kit):icon_smile_question As I have leading link suspension and I will need to put it over the pit for full inspection at licensing centre (due to modification) I hope that makes me nice and comfortable to keep riding:thumbsup2:
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Cougar
05-01-2009, 07:38 AM
Call me today on my cell after 1 pm if you want or before 6 pm tonight
and I will Tell you how wonderful the change was for me! 319-330-9194. (Iowa)
If you get a recording. I will call you back soon! sometimes I am in
a meeting and I can not answer my phone! I did LOTS of research just
like you are starting to do, now it is my time to pay it forward! just ask
gunny on how many emails he got from me:D I looked at ever kit and
asked a lot of Questions! then decided to go with hannigan!
The other kits are very nice as well.
looking forward to hearing from you! :happy65:
Jeff
biker251
05-01-2009, 04:39 PM
I have the voyager kit on my bike and have had it on for 4 years and i have had no problems at all, if someone had an accident with it it was more than likely there own fault ,,and as for being ugly looking i have had dozens of compliments about it and i also haul an Aspen classic tent trailer and have no problems,seems like there is just one on here with all the negativety,:parrots:maybe he should try one.
Jim
tx2sturgis
05-01-2009, 04:56 PM
I have the voyager kit on my bike and have had it on for 4 years and i have had no problems at all, if someone had an accident with it it was more than likely there own fault ,,and as for being ugly looking i have had dozens of compliments about it and i also haul an Aspen classic tent trailer and have no problems,seems like there is just one on here with all the negativety,:parrots:maybe he should try one.
Jim
I have tried one...didnt care for it.
Hey if it works for you then that's all that counts. I just dont beleive they make a good substitute for a well built trike. Thats all.
Cougar
05-01-2009, 05:22 PM
Annie. WOW I love the some of those Pictures on the Ozzy! Site! :whistling:
especially the one in the rain suits! :rolleyes:
You will love the choice your making on triking GO FOR IT GIRL! :thumbsup2:
Jeff
biker251
05-01-2009, 11:29 PM
All i have to say to you tx2 if you want a VW trike go for it but don't judge others for what they want ,some people don't have a choice ,like myself it was either go with the voyager or sell the bike ,i couldn't afford a full fledge trike so i went with the voyager and have no regrets,The people on this forum are asking about different makes of trikes and definetely don't need the negativety that you promote.
Jim
Aussie Annie
05-02-2009, 12:36 AM
Annie. WOW I love the some of those Pictures on the Ozzy! Site! :whistling:
especially the one in the rain suits! :rolleyes:
You will love the choice your making on triking GO FOR IT GIRL! :thumbsup2:
Jeff
Hey Jeff,
Glad we could accomodate ya :178: we have lots more good weather over here and the "boobs & bums" viewing for you guys' is amazing :stickpoke::crackup::crackup::crackup:The waiting for the trike is killing me,:bawling: it will be two years since I rode a bike (since accident) by the time it is all ready to go :fiddle:and probably winter with my luck!!
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Cougar
05-02-2009, 07:43 AM
Annie, Does your Installer offer a rake kit as well
when they add the conversion? If your not sure
asked them.
tx2sturgis
05-02-2009, 11:16 AM
All i have to say to you tx2 if you want a VW trike go for it but don't judge others for what they want ,some people don't have a choice ,like myself it was either go with the voyager or sell the bike ,i couldn't afford a full fledge trike so i went with the voyager and have no regrets,The people on this forum are asking about different makes of trikes and definetely don't need the negativety that you promote.
Jim
Jim, I gave my opinion on a piece of hardware. I wasnt judging anyone. And besides, the Voyager Kit is not actually a 'trike'. It's more of an offset quad.
If someone asked about...say, Sirius vs XM, or Ford vs Chevy, and I had opinions, and facts, you better believe I will voice those opinions and facts.... I'm here to provide and gather information. If I ask a question about something...I want any and all replies.
If you find the Voyager satisfactory, then OK. Ride it and have a good time. Peace.
Carbon_One
05-02-2009, 03:10 PM
I had a VW trike somewhat similar to the one TX2 showed in a earlier post back in the early 70's. I built that one up using a kit from out of California. It was a very comfortable riding machine, handled well thou a bit light in the front end, and got great gas milage. 1600 cc's with dual carbs on it. If I could find another at a reasonable price I'd get it.
Having the Venture trike now is a good machine as well and I do really enjoy riding it. In comparing the two I like many things on the Venture over the VW set up from the past yet I do feel the VW had the better ride. Having a wider / longer wheel base, plus independant suspension goes a long ways on improving what I have now with the Tri-Wing's solid axle. The folks here who have the independant suspension will have the smoother ride.
All anyone can do is to decide what they except in a bikes styling and handling, and what they're willing to spend and go from there.
Larry
tx2sturgis
05-02-2009, 03:27 PM
I had a VW trike somewhat similar to the one TX2 showed in a earlier post back in the early 70's. I built that one up using a kit from out of California. It was a very comfortable riding machine, handled well thou a bit light in the front end, and got great gas milage. 1600 cc's with dual carbs on it. If I could find another at a reasonable price I'd get it.....
Larry
Hey Larry, the RoadHawk trike that I drove, had the 2300 cc motor, 150hp, and an automatic. The downforce applied thru the extended front fairing kept the front end WELL PLANTED. That thing cornered like it was on rails! One nice thing about a trike is, adding a passenger does not compromise handling at all, or, not much.
A freind of mine here in Texas builds custom VW trikes for around $10,000 to $12,000 out the door. These are understandably, budget units. 1600 cc motor and standard transmisson, and very OLD school styling, and some of then are equipped with wheelie bars! There is a wait time of several months. If you want, I can provide a phone number.
wes0778
05-02-2009, 06:04 PM
I have the voyager kit on my bike and have had it on for 4 years and i have had no problems at all, if someone had an accident with it it was more than likely there own fault ,,and as for being ugly looking i have had dozens of compliments about it and i also haul an Aspen classic tent trailer and have no problems,seems like there is just one on here with all the negativety,:parrots:maybe he should try one.
Jim
My :2cents:
Amen!!!
I rode the Burgman for the better part of 2 years with the Voyager kit on it, before I got around to taking it off. Other than high-centering it a couple of times, before I was aware of that "opportunity" I have not had a minutes trouble with it. Yes you have to drive it. In that time I was lucky to not have to panic stop but once. When I locked both wheels, the bike slid arrow straight, with no hint of wanting to fish-tale. After that just for grins and giggles I tried it again on a side street, same results.
As for pulling a trailer, I do not know what the tongue weight limitations are, but the trailer weight is completely on the Voyager kit, not on the bike at all. The limitation I see there is stopping a heavy trailer. I don't know if you can put a trailer brake control on a bike.
The voyager kit seems to give you the best of both worlds. Unlike a "trike converted" bike, if you decide to trade bikes, the Voyager can go on the new bike, with very little effort. And the "old" bike is still a BIKE, thus more than likely more sell-able.:happy34:
Carbon_One
05-03-2009, 12:27 AM
Hey Larry, the RoadHawk trike that I drove, had the 2300 cc motor, 150hp, and an automatic. The downforce applied thru the extended front fairing kept the front end WELL PLANTED. That thing cornered like it was on rails! One nice thing about a trike is, adding a passenger does not compromise handling at all, or, not much.
A freind of mine here in Texas builds custom VW trikes for around $10,000 to $12,000 out the door. These are understandably, budget units. 1600 cc motor and standard transmisson, and very OLD school styling, and some of then are equipped with wheelie bars! There is a wait time of several months. If you want, I can provide a phone number.
I had at least 60 lbs of lead poured into the forward frame on mine. And was still able to pull 1 foot wheelies in 3rd gear with basicly a stock engine. So I added a set of wheelie bars to tame it a bit. LOL Lots of fun on that machine. Insurance here in Michigan was killer thou. Times have changed in that regard so I'm told now. I can only imagine what a 2300 engine would feel like. WOW factor has to be right up there.:cool10:
Anyhow thanks for the info but will wait a bit. Been eyeing some of the custom trikes shown at http://www.trikedepot.com/. Some pretty amazing machines there.
Larry
Rottdoglover
05-03-2009, 09:44 AM
To Trike or not to Trike? That is the question. 'Tis nobler to stay upright on three, or be humiliated and find yourself prone under two. Me thinks 'tis better to be free on three. "Willie Shake a spear' 2009
Bushwacker
05-03-2009, 05:55 PM
HI ALL,
Had my RSV triked in 08 at Dan's in Indiana with hannigan kit and extended front
this was a great move for me in as I( had brain surgery followed up by a stroke and in 2008 I was given a clean bill of health at John's Hopkins hospital, the only thing was I had slight weakness in left side, in ordeer to ride I went to a trike and love it, the only thing that I don't like is the gas mileage I get new it would be less O well I can still ride.
Do what you have to if you want to ride
Bushwacker
Robbie from Pa:301:
Cougar
05-03-2009, 06:40 PM
Robbie, I figured out just today that I went from
about 36 mpg to 29.5 mpg now, But ya know....
I really do not care! I am just loving the new
experience I am getting out of this change!:cool10:
Jeff
Aussie Annie
05-04-2009, 02:29 AM
To Trike or not to Trike? That is the question. 'Tis nobler to stay upright on three, or be humiliated and find yourself prone under two. Me thinks 'tis better to be free on three. "Willie Shake a spear' 2009
Thanks for the giggle, Rottdoglover :Laugh: have to "meet" this Willie Shake a Spear--he's my kinda dude:rotf::rotf::rotf:
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Aussie Annie
05-04-2009, 02:34 AM
Bushwacker,
Power to ya!!!!! Great to see you still riding after all you have been through :thumbsup2: And like Cougar said, don't worry about the mileage JUST RIDE and enjoy :happy65:
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Carbon_One
05-04-2009, 11:21 AM
Yea gas milage sucks but hey you're still riding and that's what counts. In my case I went from 38-42 mpg on an average to 28-32 mpg. The lower number is when pulling a trailer in the mountains.
Anyhow I stop after about 100-120 miles, refresh the tank and me too.
Larry
Bushwacker
05-04-2009, 07:06 PM
Hi All,
You are right I still enjoy riding even tho gas mileage is down I am running about the same as the rest of you,I was thinking of adding a fuel cell in the trunk of about three gallons, using this when traveling. Just thinking rite now thanks for come back. And yes I'am fortunate to be able to continue riding. Leaving around the 13th of June heading down to Murray ky to see Hannigan plant leaving with to other couples. Will be making planes soon. Later!!
Bushwacker
Robbie from Pa
Cougar
05-04-2009, 07:34 PM
Robbie, Say Hi to John and the Gang for me!
I will be going there as well one day!
Jeff
Bushwacker
05-04-2009, 07:41 PM
Jeff,
Will say Hi to them for you, I called them and they said to let them know when we will be there. I have a few ? to ask them.
Robbie
Cougar
05-04-2009, 07:44 PM
Thanks Robbie, Ask LOTS of ??? and take pictures!
then REPORT BACK! :detective:
Jeff
tx2sturgis
05-04-2009, 10:53 PM
Hi All,
I was thinking of adding a fuel cell in the trunk of about three gallons, using this when traveling. Just thinking rite now thanks for come back.
You might look at these motorcycle tanks....I'd hate to see you lose some luggage capacity, when you could mount one of these on your trike somewhere:
http://www.tourtank.com/images/35DLXsm.jpg
http://www.tourtank.com/
Bushwacker
05-05-2009, 07:40 PM
Brian,
Been looking at that same tank, still not sure if we are going to go that way, we do alot of 5 hundred mile days with others and hate to keep gasing up when others dont need fuel same time as I do. They dont seem to mind or at least they say they dont. the tank you showed is same one I am looking at it will fit in trunk yes I will lose some space but when traveling I pull trailer, when not traveling I would disconnect tank with quick disconnect at tank.
Robbie
Cougar
05-05-2009, 09:22 PM
Annie, I think this is a Voyager Kit on this RSV..
not a bad price.. maybe they will ship it to you! :D
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Custom-Built-Motorcycles-venture-2001-Yamaha-Venture-trike_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1171Q7c66Q3 a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a0Q7c293 Q3a5Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZit em2ea51106f0QQitemZ200337852144QQptZUSQ5fmotorcycl es
rdunbar123
07-13-2009, 02:57 PM
I just had my 2006 RSTD triked using the Hannigan kit and couldn't be happier. My reason was for health, bad shoulders, but I love the way it handles and rides. There are numerous kits out there so you will have to decide which one fits you best. I can only comment on the Hannigan conversion and I can tell you that it is first class. It will cost you a little more than some of the other kits though. I went with Hannigan because of the supension, the quality of the components and the looks. All of the supension and drive components except for the differential are from the Honda CRX sports car. The differential is from a ford thunderbird. It has braided stainless steel brake lines and michielen tires. The fiberglass is very thick and blends well with the lines of the Venture/RSTD. I have people tell me that it looks like it was factory built by Yamaha. Which ever way you go I think you will be happy to be on three wheels. I find I am much more relaxed now and can ride all day with no fatigue. Good luck with your decision.
I am considering Hannigan for my 07 venture, I was wondering how your dealer is concerning the warranty. will they still handle the parts except for the drive? just wondering what other folks experience has been. I also am short and at low speeds have to think way to much about what I am doing.
Cougar
07-13-2009, 07:14 PM
First of all you will HAVE to have this done at a Hannigan Authorized Dealer
OR
At Hannigan them selfs. The kit is warranted for 3 years. I think you can
extend that as well. what I am getting at here is that is some shops that
are not involved with trike conversions will not touch the bike. one of the
reason's is most of them do not have the 5 foot wide lift as they do for the
trike. I have ask a dealer that was close to me if they would ever work on
it. they said no. so , do your research and ask lots of Questions. The Dealer
that installed my Kit is a Honda/Yamaha Dealer that will work on 2 wheels
OR 3 wheels.
Let us know how things progress for you.
For myself I am loving every min. of this change! and will never
go back. I do play around still with other bikes with two wheels though.
I myself looked at all this kits available and decided to go with Hannigans.
I just love how there built so solid and ride so wonderful. ask Questions
to the other riders here like Carbon_One he has a different kit and really
enjoys it.
Jeff
Cougar
07-13-2009, 07:17 PM
Oh one other thing, when you decide and if you go with Hannigan
feel free to call me or email me LOTS! :D as you will have about 6,472
Questions to ask.:icon_smile_question
Jeff
rdunbar123
07-17-2009, 04:48 PM
I have been looking at Hannigan for several years, dealer said they would honor warranty on engine and electronics that are Yamaha. I have a question about insurance. How hard is it to insure and what are the rates compared to a motorcycle.
Cougar
07-17-2009, 04:55 PM
Insurance company's are starting to get on-board, as they are
finding out that when triked that they do not fall over as easy and
when that happens with two wheels the damage can be 2 grand
sometimes. matter of fact my insurance went down by 6 dollars
a month. also my company told me all is covered for the
conversion except the $1500.00 for the install fee. otherwise
all is good and covered. the Hannigan also has it's own ven
number as well.
Keep asking Questions!
I am home today if you need to call!
Jeff
craigatcsi
07-17-2009, 05:48 PM
Insurance company's are starting to get on-board, as they are
finding out that when triked that they do not fall over as easy and
when that happens with two wheels the damage can be 2 grand
sometimes. matter of fact my insurance went down by 6 dollars
a month. also my company told me all is covered for the
conversion except the $1500.00 for the install fee. otherwise
all is good and covered. the Hannigan also has it's own ven
number as well.
Keep asking Questions!
I am home today if you need to call!
Jeff
Dropped mine last year - while sitting still.
The bill was $4500 - :crying:
craigr
fishrepair
10-29-2009, 10:22 AM
Has anyone ever heard of the new kid on the block when it comes to trikes? It's called a Trigg trike kit. Very reasonable, stable and they offer a reverse with the kit. Just google it and you will find out all about it.:mo money:
Freebird
10-29-2009, 07:53 PM
I don't think I have ever heard of them. Found their website and it looks like just another Voyager knock-off. The optional reverse is a nice feature though.
http://www.triggtrikes.com/motorcycle+trikes+conversion+kits.html
Personally, if I ever go to a trike, I'll likely bite the bullet and go with one of the real trike kits.
Wanderer
10-29-2009, 08:44 PM
I don't think I have ever heard of them. Found their website and it looks like just another Voyager knock-off. The optional reverse is a nice feature though.
http://www.triggtrikes.com/motorcycle+trikes+conversion+kits.html
Personally, if I ever go to a trike, I'll likely bite the bullet and go with one of the real trike kits.
Yeah, but you're loaded. :mo money: The rest of us have to work for a living or are on a fixed income. :95:
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Freebird
10-29-2009, 09:16 PM
You have apparently NOT seen my bank account. :) There is a reason why I'm still riding my 10 year old RSV. I do love it but I've never owned ANY type of vehicle this long and would love to have a brand new one. Not going to happen anytime soon though.
Aussie Annie
10-30-2009, 01:35 AM
I wonder if they would ever sell the reverse kit seperately, and would it fit the RSV with voyager kit????????????
DONATALIE
11-02-2009, 07:53 PM
Last year I bought a Voyager "Trike" kit. Like you, I searched/shopped for quite a while. I decided on the Voyager because of the larger wheels, and dual, adjustable suspension (both vertical shocks and leaf springs). I bought it used from a guy in NJ who still had it in the crate. He never even put it on his bike. Not sure why. Anyway, I only paid $2,000 for it ($4,100 new), and I had to buy a mounting kit from Voyager, because the original owner bought it for his Harley Road King. The frames are interchangeable for those two bikes, but not the mounting kits. The kit cost me another $530, which included shipping. Now, I am not a mechanic, but the instructions were very detailed, and easy to understand. They include ALOT of pictures, and come in a very sturdy binder. A friend who is also not a mechanic and I were able to fully assemble the Voyager, put the mounting kit on my 2000 RSV, and align it, all in less than four hours. The local Voyager dealer told me it takes him approximately 5 hours. No special tools were required, all done with typical hand tools.
I have a severely disabled ten year old son who loves to ride on our RSV. However, he has no lower body control, so a couple of times, while riding he almost slid off the back seat. Now, with the Voyager on, I use a harness to secure him to the bike. And because of the outrigger system, as long as I am careful, I don't have to worry about the bike going over with the two of us on it. He LOVES it! A local metal shop helped me rig up a cargo carrier onto the ball hitch so we can take his folding wheel chair with us. As an added bonus, I can now ride in less than perfect weather, and again, as long as I'm careful, the chance of going over is greatly reduced. I've even used the bike when there was a few inches of snow on the roadway for winter-time Patriot Guard rides. Finally, the ultimate benefit. When my son is not with me, and the weather is good, it takes me literally, 2 minutes to remove the outrigger frame. Then I get to ride it like a motorcycle, not a "trike." Hope all this helps, Don from PA
tx2sturgis
11-02-2009, 08:26 PM
Hmmmin...in the fourth row of pics on that website, the pic labeled 2006 Ultra Classic...they dont have the picture labeled correctly...wonder how long its been that way...dont they look at their own website?
Well anyway...yep...just another Voyager knockoff...notice the guy NEVER mentions handling? Not in the video, not in the FAQs...in fact they mention that larger riders might need the stabilizer option, (wonder what THAT costs?) and oh yeah...they dont come painted. And with a reverse option...I'm betting it goes up about $6-$8K, plus installation.....sorry, but I see all of these kits as a waste of money (when the full retail price is paid, and unless you have a TEMPORARY need for one, such as an illness or injury, or possibly riding on icy roads) and I have said so before. And no matter what these guys call it, its NOT a trike...in my opinion...its a bike with training wheels...a four wheeler....a quad...or something else, but its NOT a trike.
wngrr
12-16-2009, 11:46 PM
I would like to suggest another option not mentioned yet. The Stallion. It is a purpose built trike from the ground up, not a kit, that has the performance of a corvette, 40 miles to a gallon, reverse, heat and air, power steering, etc. They certainly have a different look but if you consider what you get for the price they will be on my short list when the time comes.
http://www.thoroughbred-motorsports.com/
My 2 cents...
David
:santa:
Cougar
12-17-2009, 07:10 AM
And another place with nice folks to ask more Questions about the Stallion.
http://www.triketalk.com/index.php
seabeetom
12-17-2009, 09:41 AM
Here's another alternative....
http://www.motortrike.com/
Not sure if Motor Trike does Yamahas... Haven't found any info on that subject. Glad to see that they changed their suspension system.
Larry M
12-17-2009, 12:58 PM
Yep...you are the target demographic for trikes. I say GO for it, you'll have a blast, assuming it doesnt put you in a financial crunch.
At least two of the 'issues' with the Royal Stars will be solved by triking it. Rear drive hub issues and top heavy slow speed handling issues. And assuming you arent in a wheelchair, you wont even need to worry about a reverse gear on a trike. The can be pushed SO easily, since you dont have to balance them. If you can push a loaded shopping cart thru a grocery store, you can push a trike.
When its complete, you will fall in love with the 'bike' all over again. I have ridden many brands of trikes, and from experience, I can say that they are a blast to ride, and once on the open road, they feel much like what you are used to. Its when you get into traffic and stops and starts, that you will find a trike is a wonderful vehicle to be riding. Trikes easily pull a trailer, as long as you dont go overboard on your trailer weight. They DO require more 'elbow grease' when turning, but you will get used to this. A trike can be turned lock to lock(parking lot speeds), without fear of tipping over. All trikes have what is called 'headshake'...this is normal and generally only occurs at one particular speed, usually when decelerating. You get used to this too, its not scary, but its there. And a skilled trike rider can easily outcorner the average 2 wheel rider, especially at 'around town' speeds.
Good luck on your journey.
Hmm, this has been a interesting post! Sounds like you've had lots of experience tX2sturgis, with all of your experience and different rides does the rake kit help that much in cornering? I live out here in the Pacific Northwest, rural Idaho and Washington and have lots of secondary back roads with lots of corners and steep grades and your telling us that a skilled trike rider can outcorner the average 2 wheel rider? Not doubting your skills but would have to see that! the only trike I've ridden, for a short distance, was my friends new Harley trike and it wasn't easy to steer at all! Will be looking forward to going to Kamloops, BC this spring to check out the Hannigan and hopefully they will have one to do a demo ride on??
Great Post!
Larry M
GunnyButch
12-17-2009, 01:49 PM
When you do get a demo ride on a Hannigan you will love it. I have the ezsteer and it is very smooth. You can turn pretty tight but you need the right technique, use a push and pull motion and it comes right around. Push the outboard grip and pull the inboard by keeping your elbow in close to your body. A little trial and error tweaking your technique and it becomes second nature.
papaw Len
11-26-2010, 09:06 PM
Hello Jim.
I am Papaw len and I just turned 72 on the 16th on Nov. Mamaw nancy and I are a pair that have been married 51 years and we enjoy riding ,BUT, thought we were going to have to give up riding as I could no longer control the size and weight of our venture. WELL NOW!! HEAR THIS!!! go on site and check out ( midtown cycles st cloud.com)
If you still want more info: call and talk to Darren.Chances his wife Linda will answer the phone. Wonderful people. He is almost finished with mine. Will pick it up on the 2nd. of Dec. If you call please tell him Len Boucher told you about them as I promised we would tell others. no bird dog, just fell like bragtging on them. The deal was so good that we trailered the bike down from north of Atl., left it , and will pick it up,trips down and back two times ,AND STILL LESS then any price quoated to me any where else I checked with.
This is all custom work. NOT a kit. Well worth checking out.
Papaw Len.:grandpa:
RedRaptor22
11-27-2010, 12:30 AM
What about the folding hydraulic outrigger kits? that way when your in motion your on a bike, when you come to a stop they deploy and keep your bike upright.
Best of both worlds there, dunno how much they cost or if there is a dedicated kit for the RSV but I believe they make them for wings and such, could be worth a look into and maybe check some local fab shops to see what it'd take to make one work.
kj5ix
11-27-2010, 12:06 PM
You guys do realize that this thread is a year old,,,,:confused24:
Ponch
11-27-2010, 12:21 PM
You guys do realize that this thread is a year old,,,,:confused24:
Not only that, but Jim (AimHigh) bought a GoodWing. Not a trike, yet.
Trader
11-27-2010, 12:31 PM
You guys do realize that this thread is a year old,,,,:confused24:
Yeah....but the winter "oh my God...what do I do with myself now" crazies have started to decend!
Next thing you know someone will revive the toilet paper thread....oh wait......they already did that!!!!!
What's next?
WHO KNOW'S....but I'm sure it will be interesting.:whistling:
steamer
11-27-2010, 12:44 PM
You guys do realize that this thread is a year old,,,,:confused24:
I was gonna say that...but what the heck there having fun.
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