Page Scrolling

[BradT]

Was not sure what to call it but is there anyway to stop the a post from being to far acrss the page that I have to scroll to the right to read the whole post. Only happens on some posts, seems like when people get a little crazy with the smiles.

If it is my computer any suggestions on how to fix it as it annoying, and very hard to read.

Brad

[V7Goose]

The problem to which you refer is caused when someone decides to post a picture that is too big to fit on one page at the screen resolution you have selected. Text is dynamically split where necessary to allow the post to wrap and fit within the frame, but no way to split a picture. The only real option you have is to switch your display to a higher resolution. My smallest laptop runs at 1024x768, and this seems to handle the majority of posts quite well.
Goose

[Long Tall]

Brad....Do this....

Do you have a rectangular screen for a wide screen....?

What is your screen resolution set at...GO to Desk Top...Right click on Blue area and select Properties...Click on the tab that says "settings....What is the "screen" resolution listed as pixels....such as 1075 X 768 pixels...Knowing this would help answer you question....I agree with V7Goose..Resolution is important....I have a 19" rectangular screen and the 1075 X 768 pixels is my resolution...Handles mostly everything...

George In Virginia :confused24:

[dray]

mines set at 1440 x 900 and i cant remember ever seeing it do that on this computer but my old one did a lot

[BradT]

It's a Compaq laptop set at 1024x768.

How does one post a picture that is too large, thought the site limits the picture size. ?

Thanks

Brad

[V7Goose]

Depending on how old the laptop is, you can probably use a higher resolution than 1024x768. Try going to the next level up and see if you like it OK. If you have specific threads that give you the problem, post the link here so I can compare them on this little ultralight running 1024x768. You do have the browser running in full screen mode, right?

Note that one single post with a picture or other graphic that is too big will screw up the entire thread, even if it is 20 pages long. ALL posts are formatted to fit the sreen needed to display the widest post in the thread.

Posting pictures is a little tricky 'cause there are a number of ways to do it. The normal way, just using the Manage Attachments feature, only puts a thumbnail in the mail post, so that never causes a problem. Like this:
24081

But a different way can use a link to another web site, which causes the full picture to display:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b289/V7Goose/Gaugesfront3.jpg http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b289/V7Goose/Fairingfront.jpg

That photo is posted using IMG code from Photobucket. You can see that this particular photo is not too big to fit in one page, but I could have just as easily done one that was too large. Even posting two photos side-by-side does not cause a problem as long as each one will fit on one screen, as the browser will split the post between the photos and put them one above the other instead of side-by-side if needed to fit.
Goose

[BradT]

Thanks for helping. It a NC6320 about two years old.

I only have to setting 600x800 and 1024x768. Browser at full screen mode , not sure ?. Everything else seems to work fine

Here's one, seems like post #2 screwed it up

http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=29779

Here is a picture of the screen.

Brad

[Marcarl]

Thanks for helping. It a NC6320 about two years old.

I only have to setting 600x800 and 1024x768. Browser at full screen mode , not sure ?. Everything else seems to work fine

Here's one, seems like post #2 screwed it up

http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=29779

Here is a picture of the screen.

Brad
My screen is set to 1280x1024 and works fine on that post.

[BradT]

My screen is set to 1280x1024 and works fine on that post.

As always so helpful Carl:stickpoke: thanks, I only have two setting and that one of yours is not one. :rotf:

Brad

[Marcarl]

As always so helpful Carl:stickpoke: thanks, I only have two setting and that one of yours is not one. :rotf:

Brad
I'll send you my setting in a email then, maybe that'll work for ya.

[V7Goose]

Thanks for helping. It a NC6320 about two years old.

I only have to setting 600x800 and 1024x768. Browser at full screen mode , not sure ?. Everything else seems to work fine

Here's one, seems like post #2 screwed it up

http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=29779

Here is a picture of the screen.

Brad
Well, that one works fine for me on 1024x768. [edit] NOT! I spoke too soon. It works for me in Opera and Firefox, but not in IE7 (which you are using).

It was very helpful for you to post the screen shot of what it looks like - gimme a few minutes to do some comparisons and testing, and I ought to be able to figure it out for you.
Goose

[V7Goose]

OK, no resolution for IE7 yet, but I can give y'all a little more information. The full width of the first page in that thread is being driven by saddlebum's posting (#13), and specifically by his stringing all those graphics together without any spaces between them. Seems that IE, at least with the settings I currently have, cannot split the post without a space between the items, but the other browsers can. I'll keep working on it to see if I can find a change to IE or our forum software that will solve this.
Goose

It would be good to know if anyone is using IE7 with a resolution of 1024x768 and sees the full width of that thread without scrolling. That might at least help me identify any display options in IE7 that would be an easy fix.

[Freebird]

Kent,
I think you have nailed it. I use Firefox and am running the same screen resolution that Brad is. I do not have to scroll on that thread. BUT....if I view the same thread with IE7, I do have to scroll. As you say, IE is not splitting the lines like other browsers do.

[Condor]

OK, no resolution for IE7 yet, but I can give y'all a little more information. The full width of the first page in that thread is being driven by saddlebum's posting (#13), and specifically by his stringing all those graphics together without any spaces between them. Seems that IE, at least with the settings I currently have, cannot split the post without a space between the items, but the other browsers can. I'll keep working on it to see if I can find a change to IE or our forum software that will solve this.
Goose

It would be good to know if anyone is using IE7 with a resolution of 1024x768 and sees the full width of that thread without scrolling. That might at least help me identify any display options in IE7 that would be an easy fix.


I'm runing XP Media and large pics screw up the fit too.. I can pump up the rez, but then during regular viewing the screen isn't full. Anyway to increase the rez and still get a full screen.???

[Bob Myers]

Using Firefox I usually have no problems with the nuisance of scrolling sideways to see all. However immediately after reading this and moving on to the next post I had just that problem(http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=29855). My resolution is 1152x862. Changing to more resolution results, as Condor said, in every thing being smaller than the screen. What words of wisdom does some one have for Condor and I?

EDIT: Changing resolution to 1280x1024 helped only slightly, then when I made text large enough for granpa to see it returned to as it was before res increase. I'm going back to1152, this text hurts my eyes.

[V7Goose]

Kent,
I think you have nailed it. I use Firefox and am running the same screen resolution that Brad is. I do not have to scroll on that thread. BUT....if I view the same thread with IE7, I do have to scroll. As you say, IE is not splitting the lines like other browsers do.
IE does split it fine if I edit that post and insert a space between the graphics. It just does not seem to be willing to take a chance and split it on it's own if there is no space there. So far, no luck in finding a display option to change that behavior.

[V7Goose]

Using Firefox I usually have no problems with the nuisance of scrolling sideways to see all. However immediately after reading this and moving on to the next post I had just that problem(http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=29855). My resolution is 1152x862. Changing to more resolution results, as Condor said, in every thing being smaller than the screen. What words of wisdom does some one have for Condor and I?

EDIT: Changing resolution to 1280x1024 helped only slightly, then when I made text large enough for granpa to see it returned to as it was before res increase. I'm going back to1152, this text hurts my eyes.
I'm not sure I have enough information to fully explain this one. It looks like FutureVentures included several images in his post using IMG code, and if those images were too large, they certainly would have caused the problem you experienced. Unfortunately I cannot duplicate that since is seems he used links to pictures on his C: drive, so they are not available for later viewing. Not sure why you would have been able to see them at all (if you even could). Maybe it has something to do with him still being connected, so the temp images were in a buffer some where? Maybe it is even possible that the IMG code opened up a security hole directly to his C: drive while he was connected? I haven't heard of that happening before, but I sure don't know everything.
Goose

[BigShell]

Hey Goose... If you can find the code where the smilies are inserted into the text, maybe you can have a space inserted right after each smilie. Kind of a pain, though. You would have to fix it every time you upgraded that module.

[Freebird]

I think I got it corrected. I had to modify the code a bit and the problem will be, as you say, remembering what I did and doing it again anytime I upgrade the software. I may actually have it set a bit narrow now. Let me know.

Don

[Squidley]

I think I got it corrected. I had to modify the code a bit and the problem will be, as you say, remembering what I did and doing it again anytime I upgrade the software. I may actually have it set a bit narrow now. Let me know.

Don


It is a bit narrow, I just noticed it on a post I just did 2 minutes ago...could you try again boss :confused24:

[Freebird]

There you go. Let's see if this is any better.

[KeithR]

I run into that situation from time to time....I have XP and I just use CTRL - to make it smaller and CTRL + to make it bigger.......and if its too small I have my Dollar store glasses to help me out !

Keith

[Squidley]

There you go. Let's see if this is any better.


Looks like that worked Boss :thumbsup2:

[Condor]

I run into that situation from time to time....I have XP and I just use CTRL - to make it smaller and CTRL + to make it bigger.......and if its too small I have my Dollar store glasses to help me out !

Keith

I didn't know that..... Works great!!:thumbsup2:

[pegscraper]

Is this issue why the text now wraps to the next line at only 2/3 the way across the page, wasting a bunch of space? I'd appreciate it if you'd put it back the way it was.

[Thom]

I didn't know that..... Works great!!:thumbsup2:
me nether and yep it works!!! :thumbsup::sign woo hoo:

[BigShell]

I do have some wasted space now, but it's not bad.

I hate pages that make you side scroll, so if I have to give up some space to help those running smaller resolutions, no problem!

[Freebird]

It is now optimized for 1024 x 768 pixels. What resolution are you running Pegscraper?

[Condor]

My text breaks where it should......:thumbsup2:

[V7Goose]

We are never going to please everyone, at least not if they insist on using Micro$oft Internet Explorer! As we already know, not everyone is going to select the same screen resolution, and as more high quality flat-panel displays come into use, more people are selecting a larger resolution than 1024x768.

The problem here is that IE has fallen way behind in technology compared to the other browsers. Firefox and Opera both handle dynamic text wrapping and flexible page width with poise and grace. IE can barely recognize a difference in browser size or page width, let alone deal with it! The HTML code that tells the other browsers to set max width to the window is not even recognized by IE. Because of that, the only way to work around the problem is code a lot of stuff under the covers to tell IE exactly what size to use. As Don said above, he chose 1024x768 'cause he had to choose something, and that seems to still be the most common. But this will leave anyone running smaller or larger resolutions with a problem.

The solution here is to quit using Internet Explorer! I have hung onto IE for a long time because I kept finding things I didn't like with both Firefox and Opera every time I tried them. As much as I didn't like IE, it seemed to still be the best of a bunch of bad choices. But I think I have finally changed my mind. The testing for this thread made me install new versions of both Firefox and Opera, and I'm happy to say that I am now very pleased with both of them. I also tried Google's new browser (Chrome, still in beta), but I have to recommend that you stay as far away from that thing as possible! WAY too many things still missing in it!!!

So my recommendation to all of you is to try out both Firefox and Opera and see which one you like best. They both are free and install quickly and painlessly. They automatically import your favorites and cookies from IE, so you can begin using them without any effort at all. They each have a very different look and feel, so it is worth trying both of them to see which suits your preferences. When you decide which browser you prefer (even if it is to stick with IE), the others will uninstall just as easily as they went on. And there is no problem leaving all three of them on the same computer either.

For everyone who insists on staying with IE, I personally believe we should remove the hokey work-around that Don just put in, and all IE users just need to accept its limitations.
Goose

Oh, one last comment on the browsers - Firefox comes with a built-in spelling checker that works like the one in M$ Word. Opera does not have one, but you can get a free add-on called Aspell that seems to work great.

[chabicheka]

hey brad...

if all fails....you could try taping up a piece of white cardboard to the right side of your monitor. :sign your welcome:

[Freebird]

Well, the new IE 8 is supposedly more compliant with standard protocols so I downloaded and installed the beta version this morning in hopes that they had corrected this issue. No such luck....IE 8 doesn't properly wrap the lines either. Kent is absolutely correct on this one, Firefox or Opera is the way to go with browsers. I personally gave up on IE long ago.

[Thom]

i have firefox , and on the sites that i need to use IE i use the IE plugin from firefox , down in the rite site just above the clock is a icon to switch from firefox and IE
Thom

[pegscraper]

It is now optimized for 1024 x 768 pixels. What resolution are you running Pegscraper?

It is set at 1280 x 1024. Never had any issues before this. It worked fine for both a mostly square flat screen and the laptop's own widescreen. Now there's a bunch of wasted space on the right side of the screen. It's pretty rare that a picture wider than the screen was ever put up. So now we have a narrow text space on everything 100% of the time to accommodate the rare odd time a large picture is posted. You've given us plenty of picture resizing methods in the past. Let people make the pictures smaller. It was fine the way it was, and I'd appreciate it if it were put back. I use a Mac with Safari.

[Squeeze]

It is set at 1280 x 1024. Never had any issues before this. It worked fine for both a mostly square flat screen and the laptop's own widescreen. Now there's a bunch of wasted space on the right side of the screen. It's pretty rare that a picture wider than the screen was ever put up. So now we have a narrow text space on everything 100% of the time to accommodate the rare odd time a large picture is posted. You've given us plenty of picture resizing methods in the past. Let people make the pictures smaller. It was fine the way it was, and I'd appreciate it if it were put back. I use a Mac with Safari.

I'm with Lynn here.

My Laptop runs 1440x900 and almost half of the Screen is unused. It isn't annoying for me, but i thought why mess with a self adjusting System in first Place ?

[MikeM8560]

im at 600x800 and seems even with no photos ill have to scroll to fit a text window in my screen. I tried as mentiod changing to 1024x768 but the text gets too small

[BradT]

Jeepers, Almost sorry I brought this one up. I seemed to be able to :stirthepot: without even trying :rotf:

Thanks for trying.

Brad

[Freebird]

No problem Brad. Like Kent said, there is no way that we can please everybody. Our only hope is to do what is best for the majority. That is what I'll do when I figure out what that is in this case. No big deal.

You know the old saying...you can please all the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time but you can't please all the people all the time and you can't please some of the people any of the time and many of the people none of the time and none of the people many many times and....wait a minute.......I don't think that was right. :scratchchin:

[BradT]

You know the old saying...you can please all the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time but you can't please all the people all the time and you can't please some of the people any of the time and many of the people none of the time and none of the people many many times and....wait a minute.......I don't think that was right. :scratchchin:

That saying is so old you all can't remember.

Not too worry either this is been like this for a few years I was just getting tired of it, so I thought I would ask. Have to find another one, but it is not fair anymore, as you have help from the computer gurus.

BRad

[V7Goose]

I think in this case, the way things were might have been the best choice. As bad as IE is, it still managed to dynamically split lines and wrap most posts to whatever window size the user had. The specific problem we started with was where there were no spaces between graphics. In that situation, IE just left everything one long line until it found a space. But those types of posts don't really happen all that often. Maybe we should go back to that default and just tell everyone who insists on using IE as their browser that they have to live with the limitations? After all, we have already told them how to solve it just by using a different browser. It is their own choice.
Goose

[BradT]

Maybe we should go back to that default and just tell everyone who insists on using IE as their browser that they have to live with the limitations? Goose

I agree.

I tried loading the different browsers before but my work laptop will not allow it. "IT" has them blocked.

Brad

[Condor]

I really don't know what all the flap is about I.E. being so evil. I'm running XP Media and as far as I'm concerned it works just fine. Issues are few and far between.